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Old 11-30-2005, 06:20 PM
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What's the proper way to quantify this? (and is "quantity" a proper criterion for judging which was "worst:?)
I think in my mind I was considering overall ferocity, number killed and wounded, and hand-to-hand engagements. I agree though, maybe there should be certain criteria.

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:45 PM
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Ferocity, yes, also bloodiness? A tough, and gruesome, exercise to consider.

I don't know if one could say any one complete battle was the "worst". One could point to parts of different battles which where particularly ferocious and bloody - the cornfield at Sharpsburg, the crater at Petersburg, the repulse at Marye's Heights at Chancellorsville, the Bloody Angle at Spotsylvania .....

Is there any one battle where the most ferocious and bloody fighting lasted the longest in relation to the total length of the entire battle?
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Worse battle...
Worse for whom? Wellington in the depths of post battle depression after Waterloo, said there was nothing as melancholy as a battle won, except a battle lost. In any battle we can assume the winners felt better than the losers. Fredericksburg was a terrible defeat, but another a great victory.

The sheer number of dead? An atrocity, or shameful cowardice? Particularly nasty(which usually means at close range or hand to hand) fighting? Was it raining, like an Spotsylvania? Who can answer such a question?
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Hmmmmmmm. Spotsylvania pops into my head again, if that is the qualifier. Also Franklin.

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May 12, 1864. Spotsylvania Court House.
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Okay, I'll refine my question. Every battle had its moment(s) of horror. I ask you....where was the worst place to be in the war....for a Yank....and for a reb? I'll throw up a couple of "jump balls". For a Yank....Maryes" Heights at Fredricksburg. For a Reb...the field in front of the Federal line during "Picket's Charge". Now, I have other opinions on this; but theses are obvious starting points. I'll weigh in on my thoughts on this later; but I'm curious as to what y'all (yous all?) think. Yanks and Rebs where is the number one spot you would NOT want to be during the war?

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Old 12-03-2005, 10:02 PM
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Bloody Angle at Spotsylvania, whether a Yank or Reb.
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for a CSA soldier, stay away from the 1st corp line during Anderson's charge towards Hancock's troops at the Wilderness 1864. Being shot and burnt to a crisp in the woods has to be one of the worst ways to die.
Yankees, Cold habor June of 64.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:00 PM
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I'm with Sam, Bloody Angle at Spotsylvania.

Other choice: the cotton gin at Franklin. Hell on earth for a time.

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Calico,

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Salute to Calicoboy for a most reflective & interesting post.

Most Respectfully,
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