CivilWarTalk.com - A free and friendly Civil War community.
CivilWarTalk.com
The Dispatch Depot at Civil War Talk  

Go Back   The Dispatch Depot at Civil War Talk > The Backpack - Essential Discussions > Civil War History - General Discussion

Civil War History - General Discussion For Discussions on Civil War Era Personalities, Politics, Issues, Campaigns, Battles, and more. Serious Civil War Discussions Only Please! All other posts will be deleted.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-20-2002, 11:01 AM
Cadet
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default

Would anyone care to offer opinions, information from your studies of ,and/or interesting stories regarding Major Earl Van Dorn? Regards,Mike .
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-20-2002, 11:28 AM
Private (25+ posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 188
Default

don't know much about him other than the fact that he was one of the recipients of the first three CBF's made by the Cary Cousins.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-20-2002, 12:15 PM
Private (25+ posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 125
Default

I don't have the info in front of me now but I seem to recall that he was killed over an illicit dalliance with a doctor's wife in Tennessee during the war. I also seem to recall that he and Forrest had a fairly public falling out, but I don't recall the circumstances.

blackirish
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-21-2002, 01:21 AM
traveller's Avatar
Corporal (250+ posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vanscoy. Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 275
Default

Earl van Dorn was one of the Confederacy's most promising general officers early in the Civil War, but proved to be a disappointment and died, not at the hands of the enemy but at those of a jealous husband.
Early in the war he commanded in Texas where he seized U.S. property and received the surrender of regular army detachments. Promoted to brigadier and major general, he was ordered to Virginia where he led a division near Manassas.
Launching an attack at Pea Ridge, he was repulsed after two days of fighting. Ordered east of the Mississippi, he arrived too late to take part in the fighting at Shiloh but participated in the unsuccessful defense of Corinth.
In the summer of 1862 he successfully defended Vicksburg but failed in his designs on Baton Rouge when the attack under Breckinridge failed.
Another failure occurred when he attempted to retake Corinth in October 1862. By this time many Southerners were disenchanted with him, and he was placed in charge of the mounted troops under Pemberton. His raid on Holly Springs, Mississippi, was a major factor in ending Grant's campaign in central Mississippi.
Moving his division into middle Tennessee, he was killed on May 7, 1863, by Dr. George B. Peters for attentions paid by the general upon the physician's wife.

Traveller
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-21-2002, 03:53 PM
rivrrat's Avatar
Sergeant (500+ posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 533
Default

I am currently reading about the Battle of Pea Ridge and it’s consequences as part of my study of the 35th Ill. My GG Uncle served with the 35th from its inception in 1861 until he was killed in action at Chickamauga in 1863

The consensus of opinion about Van Dorn in Arkansas seems to be that as General he was a pretty good Calvary Troop commander. His over aggressive actions at Pea Ridge, splitting his command in the face of the enemy, refusing his troops an opportunity to rest after a long forced march, etc., cost him an opportunity to defeat an overextended and outnumbered enemy.

His stripping of the Dept. of the Trans Mississippi ended any real Confederate threat west of the Mississippi until the Union moved its forces east after Vicksburg. I think he proves that not all West Point Graduates are great generals.
__________________
Doug
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-22-2002, 01:10 PM
Cadet
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default

Thank You all. Great posts. Doug, have you visited the Chickamauga Battlefield where your gg uncle fell? What little I have read about Van Dorn has a common theme. He had great "potential". Wondering if he was somewhat Napoleonic.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-22-2002, 05:41 PM
rivrrat's Avatar
Sergeant (500+ posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 533
Default

Yes I have. But, it was before I knew about Uncle Warren. My brother and I are planning to go back soon.
__________________
Doug
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Back to top
Bringing the American Civil War to Life. Copyright © 1999 - 2008, CivilWarTalk.com. Site Version 4.3
The American Civil War | Forum | Resource Center | Image Gallery | Links | Site Map | XML | Donations