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...The fact remains that the service of a small number of free blacks and black slaves does not negate, nor will it ever, the fact that the South seceded primarily to preserve the institution of slavery....
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Based on the voting in several states...the motivation for secession was due more to Lincoln's call for 75,000 troops to invade the South.
Compare the voting in VA, TN, NC before and after Lincoln's call for troops.
Compare voting for delegates to Secession Conventions in AL (Secession-36,907, Union-28,630) and GA (Secession-41,717, Union-42,744) in January 1861...to how many from those states that fought for the Union (AL-1 regiment of cavalry; GA- 1 battalion infantry).
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"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
12 men out of one Regiment... how many men served in that Regiment? What is the percentage of black men to white? Now look to other Regiments, what do you think the average black men in the service of the CS would have been. 10%, 20%, 1%? And what does that percentage bear out?
5000, a number you have given in the past is reasonable, If in my opinion high.
You continue to do your best to discredit the USCT; your true agenda always shows through. It remains, no matter how you wish to deny it, that the USCT far outnumbered any number of "Black Confederates."
And from Colombus Ohio... northern bent. Really, I've seen a pro US and pro historical accuracy bend in the information from that particular poster. Wheras you... are unwilling to lisyt your location, when you demanded the credentials from another poster you lacked the courage to present your own. For all anyone here knows you're posting from Cuba, so please don't even attempt to claim you are in someway impartial or less biased than anyone else.
Posting the same names over and over again fails to add any credability to your agenda, in fact to anyone who bother to read it it begins to look like you're trying to multiply the numbers by giving the same names over and over agin to make your list look bigger than it really is.
Nothing more than more Amazon book reviews as a source.
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Shane Christen
American Legion Post 352
SUVCW Camp Abernethy# 48
Lifetime NRA member
3rd MN VI
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Eccl 1:18
12 men out of one Regiment... how many men served in that Regiment? What is the percentage of black men to white? Now look to other Regiments, what do you think the average black men in the service of the CS would have been. 10%, 20%, 1%? And what does that percentage bear out?
5000, a number you have given in the past is reasonable, If in my opinion high.
You continue to do your best to discredit the USCT; your true agenda always shows through. It remains, no matter how you wish to deny it, that the USCT far outnumbered any number of "Black Confederates."
And from Colombus Ohio... northern bent. Really, I've seen a pro US and pro historical accuracy bend in the information from that particular poster. Wheras you... are unwilling to lisyt your location, when you demanded the credentials from another poster you lacked the courage to present your own. For all anyone here knows you're posting from Cuba, so please don't even attempt to claim you are in someway impartial or less biased than anyone else.
Posting the same names over and over again fails to add any credability to your agenda, in fact to anyone who bother to read it it begins to look like you're trying to multiply the numbers by giving the same names over and over agin to make your list look bigger than it really is.
Nothing more than more Amazon book reviews as a source.
...same ole BS...
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Based on the voting in several states...the motivation for secession was due more to Lincoln's call for 75,000 troops to invade the South.
Compare the voting in VA, TN, NC before and after Lincoln's call for troops. With CS troops in place and influencing the vote, it's been discussed. Trice has done a superb job of showing the Secession vote meant nothing as Secession had already been accomplished in VA & TN prior to Lincolns Call. In short chaff.
Compare voting for delegates to Secession Conventions in AL (Secession-36,907, Union-28,630) and GA (Secession-41,717, Union-42,744) in January 1861...to how many from those states that fought for the Union (AL-1 regiment of cavalry; GA- 1 battalion infantry). Once again forgeting to count the USCT... why exactly don't they count again?
More smoke and mirrors; i eagerly wait the rabbit from the hat as an encore.
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Shane Christen
American Legion Post 352
SUVCW Camp Abernethy# 48
Lifetime NRA member
3rd MN VI
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Eccl 1:18
More smoke and mirrors; i eagerly wait the rabbit from the hat as an encore.
...same ole BS...
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Secession had already been accomplished in VA & TN prior to Lincolns Call.
BS.
Secession only passed in VA & TN after Lincoln's call for 75,000 troops.
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Popular vote
23 May 1861.........132,201 for....37,451 against
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Anda Lawson Enlisted 30 July 1861 for 12 months. "A free man of color."
Alex Scott Enlisted as Private 26 July 1861 for 12 months. "Freeman of color."
Rufus Harris Enlisted as Private 30 July 1861 for 12 months. "A free man of color."
Jeff Bruington Enlisted 25 July 1861. "Free negro."
Benjamin Watson Enlisted as Private 15 September 1861 for 12 months. Age- 55 years. "Colored/Free negro."
Rufus Worley Enlisted 25 July 1861. "Free negro."
Churchwell Randalls Enlisted 5 October 1861 for 12 months. "Freeman of color."
Ab. Rickman Enlisted 25 July 1861. "Free negro."
William Burgis Enlisted as Private 18 August 1861 for 12 months. "Free man of color."
Joseph A. Rickman Enlisted as Private 1 August 1861 for 12 months. "Free man of color."
Sampson Alley Enlisted 21 September 1861 for 12 months. "Free man of color."
James Farley Enlisted as Private 25 July 1861 for 12 months. "Colored."
Stephen Randles Enlisted 25 July 1861. "Free negro."
Brunton Alexander Enlisted 30 July 1861 for 12 months. "A freeman of color."
[15.] James Fields Enlisted as Private 30 July 1861 for 12 months. "Colored."
etc
etc...
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Based on the voting in several states...the motivation for secession was due more to Lincoln's call for 75,000 troops to invade the South.
Compare the voting in VA, TN, NC before and after Lincoln's call for troops.
Compare voting for delegates to Secession Conventions in AL (Secession-36,907, Union-28,630) and GA (Secession-41,717, Union-42,744) in January 1861...to how many from those states that fought for the Union (AL-1 regiment of cavalry; GA- 1 battalion infantry).
And the primary reason behind the other states seceded?
SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, FL, & TX? The paper trail is too long and too well known. Slavery was thought not to be secure under Lincoln. Slavery must be protected. And now, we must even use slaves and black freedmen to perpetuate the myth that the war was NOT about slavery.
If all you wanted to do was honor the black men who served, it would be one thing. But it appears all you wish to do is use them as others do as part of a modern-day agenda to dilute and hide the real reasons for the cause of that war.
This is why the USCT must be tainted and the Black Confederate Soldier elevated. This is why every black slave must be counted as "Black Confederates."
IMO, it's all BS.
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
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