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You mis-interpret the law.
The law required white males of a certain age group to serve.
It did not prevent anyone outside those categories from volunteering.
Nope. The law is specific: -----
Approved January 23, 1862.
AN ACT to reorganize the militia.
SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Louisiana in General Assembly convened, That the militia of the State of Louisiana shall be composed of all the free white
males capable of bearing arms residing in the State, and are eighteen years of age and not over forty-five, and who are not exempt under this law.
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Only "the free white males". It was this law that disbanded the Native Guard regiment, effective February 15, 1862. But you already know that. You are just trying to hide from it.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
No, that's not so by law in the Confederacy. If the government hired or conscripted a slave, the wages or fee went to the owner. The owner might or might not have decided to give them to the slave, but that was his personal choice.
There were also no death benefits to the slave's family -- but there was a payment to the owner if the slave was killed.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
If Confederate Army Regulations ("white males...may be enlisted") were laws...then how did 12,000-15,000 American Indians enlist in the Confederate Army?
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"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
Yes, the governor later asked them to stand ready to be called in an emergency, and yes, a few of them may have shown up at a muster when Farragut took New Orleans, never firing a shot and being left behind when the Confederates left the city.
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Yes, I guess that is the 'accepted' history...
Accepted because it is factual. You and I have been through this before, and you know already what you are saying is simply an attempt to hide from the data.
You know that the Louisiana legislature passed an act to reorganize the Militia on January 23, 1862; that this act specified only "free white males" as members of the state Militia; and that the existing Louisiana Native Guard regiment was dissolved in accordance with that law on February 15th.
It was on March 24th that the Governor wrote to ask them to "maintain their organization". This is probably illegal under the law, but the Governor was in the midst of a crisis (Farragut coming up the river, while all his equipped and trained forces were being drained off to re-inforce A. S. Johnston at Corinth to meet Grant at the soon-to-be battle of Shiloh.) He didn't ask the legislature to change the law, he just went ahead in the emergency.
Now you and I have been through that before, so you know it for sure. We have also been through events involving the Farragut capture of the city, and you know the Louisiana Native Guard did not exit the city along with other units being withdrawn by the Confederate Army. You have not provided a single bit of evidence to make anyone believe anything else happened. As a result, the nicest thing we can say here is that you are blowing smoke when you talk on this subject.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
If Confederate Army Regulations ("white males...may be enlisted") were laws...then how did 12,000-15,000 American Indians enlist in the Confederate Army?
If you are seriously interested, I would suggest you pay attention to the following:
1) Under both the US Constitution and the Confederate Constitution, any treaty signed by the government and approved by the Congress becomes part of that nation's laws.
2) The Confederacy signed treaties with several Indian nations.
3) Those treaties include provisions for Indian forces to be raised to serve in the Confederate Army as part of the military protection pact and alliance.
That's how it works under the law. Please answer indicating that you understand this, and never try to use this diversion again.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
Laws are passed by a legislative body and can only be amended or anulled by that same body.
Rules and regulations of a governmental department are set forth by the head of that department and can be changed, excluded or ignored at his whim. None of the changes, etc., have to be appoved by a legislative body.
The Confederate Army regulations were not laws and did not have the power of law.
We have been through this before as well, and you have been shown that this is wrong. Why bother to try to pass it off yet again?
Army regulations were approved by specific acts of the Confederate Congress, giving them the force of law. This is how it works in the United States then and now. It is how the Confederate government did things as well.
Please reply indicating that you acknowledge this and will not be bothering us with this again.
Tim
__________________ "Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses."
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina, 1740-1824, Revolutionary War soldier, one of the authors of the US Constitution in 1787, speaking at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention in 1788.
Since the CSA kicked out some guys serving in the army that were discovered to be black or mulatto men "passing" as white, it is safe to say they didn't want any black men in the army. On the other hand, these guys apparently did want to serve. What's their story?
Ahhhh...the First Native Guards. Never have so few who did so little produce so many words.
We have been through this before as well, and you have been shown that this is wrong. Why bother to try to pass it off yet again?
Army regulations were approved by specific acts of the Confederate Congress, giving them the force of law. This is how it works in the United States then and now. It is how the Confederate government did things as well.
Please reply indicating that you acknowledge this and will not be bothering us with this again.
Tim
No.
The Confederate Congress authorized the Army simply to have regulations...but nowhere did it state they were laws or had the power of law.
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
If you are seriously interested, I would suggest you pay attention to the following:
1) Under both the US Constitution and the Confederate Constitution, any treaty signed by the government and approved by the Congress becomes part of that nation's laws.
2) The Confederacy signed treaties with several Indian nations.
3) Those treaties include provisions for Indian forces to be raised to serve in the Confederate Army as part of the military protection pact and alliance.
That's how it works under the law.
Tim
...and that's why the Army Regulations were not laws. Otherwise there would be a conflict.
__________________ POWER & MONEY
"Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the Government Loan. It was not merely patriotism, it was a high stroke of policy. It has saved the Government, and what they will regard as equally important, saved them from a great financial disaster."
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