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Some folks who were killed didn't follow orders nor good judgement. There's plenty in the civil war to blame Forrest for. Fort Pillow is a minor one at best. If William T. Sherman couldn't hang him with it, the evidence was and is scarce.
That's a mischaracterization. How could Sherman hang him if he wasn't in custody?

He was tasked with investigating the massacre and he in turn assigned another officer to do the actual investigation.

Sherman's recommendation was to let the soldiers handle any retaliation. That doesn't let Forrest off the hook in any way.

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The forum that Timewalker linked discussed Fort Pillow exhaustively. There is a ton of good info there, if you are interesting in understanding what happened(as opposed to playing a game of heros and villians).
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That's a mischaracterization. How could Sherman hang him if he wasn't in custody?

He was tasked with investigating the massacre and he in turn assigned another officer to do the actual investigation.

Sherman's recommendation was to let the soldiers handle any retaliation. That doesn't let Forrest off the hook in any way.

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Seems to me a Congressional hearing and custody were a bit similar? Forrest went on with his life, short as it was, unmolested, aside from the ravages of reconstruction and diabetes. He was on a very weak hook, if at all. A good southern jury would have given him every consideration. It never came to that, and shouldn't have.
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Seems to me a Congressional hearing and custody were a bit similar?
In what alternate reality would that be?

And the "investigation," such as it was, by one of Sherman's officers was conducted during the war while the Congressional hearing was conducted after the war. Two completely separate events. Apples and orangutans.


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Forrest went on with his life, short as it was, unmolested, aside from the ravages of reconstruction and diabetes. He was on a very weak hook, if at all. A good southern jury would have given him every consideration. It never came to that, and shouldn't have.
The evidence against Forrest is contradicted by evidence in his favor, making the case unresolved, but it's hardly weak on its own. I agree he shouldn't have been tried, but Sherman has nothing to do with it.

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"Two completely separate events. Apples and orangutans."

Neither of which convicted nor caused Forrest any additional harm, as far as I know. Sherman had vowed to "hang" Forrest for his involvement at Ft. Pillow prior to the attempt to bring Forrest to task. Sherman backed off. His action should be an example for others.
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FT Pillow, lets go to the one responsible for the event.

Mr. Forrest was the commander in charge of the operation that went terribly wrong.

The person ultimately responsible for his troops action is Forrest so he must be guilty of the war crimes while he was in command at Ft. Pillow.

Forrest may have escape justice but guilty he was...
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Blue: 5fish likes to stir the pot.

Back on the subject, if Shernan's "commission" couldn't find Forrest at fault, that pretty much ends it for me. Sherman had every reason to command his people to find Forrest a criminal sunavaseacook.But he didn't. That means something.

To me, it means that Sherman knew that Forrest's actions, however having been beyond his control, were well within the slide given a commander. It happens. And Sherman knew and believed that. He simply left it with the USCT. That they would exact justice and retribution.

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Think how the whole "Fort Pillow affair" ruined Forrest's life Firstly- his troops were particularly hated by USCT and were promised to be given no quarter. Secondly- it change Forrest's life forever, because since then he had to answer countless charges of various newspapers and "witnesses". As the New York Times noted in his obituary: " his principal occupation seems to have been to try and explain away the F.P. affair".
Many people didn't want to know the truth- they just wanted the scape-goat. And there are still such people today.
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Bobbie,

I am pretty much of the same view of you and ole.

The man was not found guilty and he did have to answer questions the remainder of his life. That pretty much ends it for me.

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"Two completely separate events. Apples and orangutans."

Neither of which convicted nor caused Forrest any additional harm, as far as I know. Sherman had vowed to "hang" Forrest for his involvement at Ft. Pillow prior to the attempt to bring Forrest to task. Sherman backed off. His action should be an example for others.
He decided to take military advantage by giving the troops another motivation--vengeance.

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