Antietam/Sharpsburg: confederate/union strengths

[Mr King]

Can someone tell me or provide me with a link that tells you the armies' strengths? But I want more specific details. Like how many men were in each Corps, then divisions, then brigades.

[Baggage Handler #2]

Wikipedia, while not the bastion of perfect accuracy one may hope, has the order of battle for both armies:

Confederate Order of Battle

Union Order of Battle

[M E Wolf]

Dear Mr. King;
O.R.-- SERIES I--VOLUME XIX/1 [S# 27]
Operations in Northern Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania.--September 3-November 14, 1862.
No. 2.--Reports of Maj. Gen. George B. McClellan, U. S. Army, commanding the Army of the Potomac, of operations August 14- November 9.


Tabular Report of Casualties in the Army of the Potomac in the battle of Antietam on the 16th and 17th of September, 1862.

Officers. Enlisted men. ---Aggregate.---

Corps and divisions. K W K W M K W M A
First Corps, Major-General Hooker:
1st Division .... .... .... .... .... 98 669 95 862
2d Division .... .... .... .... .... 153 898 137 1,188
3d Division .... .... .... .... .... 97 449 23 569
Total .... .... .... .... .... 348 2,016 255 2,619
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econd Corps, Major-General Sumner:
1st Division 21 39 192 860 24 212 900 24 1,136
2d Division 2 .... 355 1,577 321 355 1,579 321 2,255
3d Division 22 50 272 1,271 203 293 1,322 203 1,818
Total 45 89 819 3,708 548 860 3,801 548 5,209
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Fifth Corps, Maj. Gen. F. J. Porter:
1st Division .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
2d Division .... 2 13 92 1 13 94 1 108
Artillery Reserve 1 .... 7 13 1 8 13 1 22
Total 1 2 20 105 2 21 107 2 130
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Sixth Corps Major-General Franklin:
1st Division .... .... .... .... .... 5 58 2 65
2d Division .... .... .... .... .... 65 277 31 373
Total ..... .... .... .... .... 70 335 33 438
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Ninth Corps, Major-General Burnside:
1st Division 2 20 44 264 7 46 284 7 337
2d Division 7 29 121 493 20 128 522 20 670
3d Division 8 40 212 743 70 220 783 70 1,073
4th Division 5 7 33 145 23 38 152 23 213
Total 22 96 410 1,645 120 432 1,741 120 2,293
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Twelfth Corps (General Banks), Brigadier-General Williams comdg:
1st Division 9 34 151 827 54 160 862 54 1,076
2d Division 6 26 107 481 30 113 507 30 650
Artillery .... .... 1 15 1 1 15 1 17
Total 15 61 259 1,323 85 274 1,384 85 1,743
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Major-General Couch's division .... 1 .... 8 .... .... 9 .... 9
Brigadier-General Pleasonton, Cavalry Division. .... .... .... .... .... 5 23 .... 28
Grand total. .... .... .... .... .... 2,010 9,416 1,043 12,469
Official:
S. WILLIAMS,
Assistant Adjutant-General.
HEADQUARTERS ARMY OF THE POTOMAC,
near Sharpsburg, September 29, 1862.
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Sorry I couldn't re-align it for you better--but; I think this is the information you seek - Although Union for now; haven't crossed CSA's tabular records 'yet.' Will post when found.

NOTE: If you see --- that is nobody got killed/wounded - takes space where numbers should go if any. KEY: K-Killed; W-Wounded; M-Missing; A-Aggregate (Officers first, Enlisted second series, total last)

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration;
M. E. Wolf

[M E Wolf]

Statement of Casualties in the Army of the Potomac September 3-20, 1862, inclusive
Command. K W M A Remarks.
First Corps, Major-General Hooker 170 720 43 933 Battle of South Mountain
Sixth Corps, Major-General Franklin. 115 416 2 533 Battle of Crampton's Pass.
Ninth Corps, Major General Burnside(Major-General Reno temporarily in command). 158 670 30 858 Battle of South Mountain.
Cavalry Brigade, Brigadier-General Pleasonton. .... 1 .... 1 Do.
First Corps, Major-General Hooker 348 2,016 255 2,619 Battle of Antietam.
Second Corps. Major-General Sumner 860 3,801 548 5,209 Do.
Fifth Corps, Maj. Gen. F. J. Porter 21 107 2 130 Do.
Sixth Corps, Major General Franklin 70 335 33 438 Do.
Ninth Corps, Major-General Burnside 432 1,741 120 2,293 Do.
Twelfth Corp Major-General Banks(Brigadier-General Williams) 274 1,384 85 1,743 Do.
Major-General Conch .... 9 .... 9 Do.
Brigadier-General Pleasonton { 5 23 .... 28 Do.
{ 12 55 13 80 Advance guard.
Major-General Morell 70 148 128 346 Shepherdstown, Va.
Total 2,535 11,426 1,259 15,220
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Official.
S. WILLIAMS,
Assistant Adjutant-General
HEADQUARTERS ARMY OF THE POTOMAC,
Camp near Sharpsville, Md., September 29, 1862.
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More numbers : Killed, Wounded, Missing, Aggregated Battle: is key for above number chart.
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Thirteen guns, 39 colors, upwards of 15,000 stand of small-arms, and more than 6,000 prisoners were the trophies which attest the success of our arms in the battles of South Mountain, Crampton's Gap, and Antietam. Not a single gun or color was lost by our army during these battles.
An estimate of the forces under the Confederate General Lee, made up by direction of General Banks from information obtained by the examination of prisoners, deserters, spies, &c., previous to the battle of Antietam, is as follows:
General T. J. Jackson's corps 24,778
General James Longstreet's corps 23,342
General D. H. Hill's two divisions 15,525
General J. E. B. Stuart, cavalry. 6,400
Generals Ransom's and Jenkins' brigade 3,000
Forty-six regiments not included in above 18,400
Artillery, estimated at 400 guns 6,000
Total 97,445
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These estimates give the actual number of men present and fit for duty.
Our own forces at the battle of Antietam were as follows:

First Corps 14,856
Second Corps 18,813
Fifth Corps (one division not arrived) 12,930
Sixth Corps 12,300
Ninth Corps 13,819
Twelfth Corps 10,126
Cavalry Division 4,320
Total in action 87,164

NOTE: You should be able to look up on the Internet - Official Records of the Rebellion then use the search engine for Antietam and Sharpsburg - do both inquires as the records trigger on words and Confederates use Sharpsburg; Union uses Antietam

All this was on the Official Records of the Rebellion, numbers out of all kinds of configurations, to include Corps Commanders, Division Commanders, etc.

Hope this has helped.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M.E. Wolf

[Mr King]

Thank you very much for the replies, ya'll! I am sorry for such a late response. I wanted to gather up the strength information on these two armies because I had purchased Michael Priest's Antietam: The Soldiers' Battle book. It's very detailed and found out that the information is provided near the end of the book.

[M E Wolf]

Dear Mr. King;

Hopefully, the information provided in the book closely matches what is contained in the official records.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf

[jreb721]

Take the "official" confederate order of battle numbers with a grain of salt. I have read a few sources that there was great amount of straggling even over the usual you always had anyway. From what I read it was a real problem with this campaign.

[ole]

Lee's "on the books" at Sharpsburg may be considered highly suspect, but I haven't figured out why that matters all that much. He had some men there, and he manipulated them so as to frustrate the hell out of McClellan who was charged with giving him a bad time.

Bad time he got. Frustrated the opposition, he got. Decamped with honor he got.

[M E Wolf]

Dear List Members;

I doubt if anybody really had a very good account of things on either side, as far as numbers, strengths; as some stragglers would be in between muster rolls, sometimes separated, details that went over time of detail, sick, etc.

The only possible accurate accounts would be top officials, commanders and down to the NCOs--maybe Corporals also. But, privates--and also heaven help anybody with the same name; and only an occasional middle initial or name to distinguish you from the other guy.

Re-enlistments into other units. Self-transfer. Several female soldiers who were discovered, allegedly just went to another unit and signed on until they were discovered; repeating the process all over again.

In addition, when General R. E. Lee attempted to assemble papers to write his version of the Civil War; he had Colonel Taylor attempt to round them up. Several files were burned and thus distroyed. Taylor went to Washington and got from the Official Records of the Rebellion; much of the information; to include the information for his books as well. He mentions he was satisfied with the intentions of keeping the records as true as could be possible--to include the ugly matters. This certainly is true in my opinion; in regard to General Pope at 2nd Bull Run/Manassas. Finally it was discovered the seriousness of Pope's lies; once the Confederate records were recorded and published..

Even so, Taylor mentioned that the biggest issue were the 'numbers.'

With the Batallion of Marines who were at First Bull Run/Manassas; the Marine Corps History Unit had a Xerox of the muster roll. I would think that there should be such with the National Archives.

Even still -- numbers were always subjected to ammendments; as missing were found, wounded abandoned found, etc.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf

[Elennsar]

There's a couple games with OOB I trust, though they may not be perfect.

Sid Meier's Antietam is one.
http://www.gamersarchive.net/theGamers/archive/itof.htm is another.

For instance, by the calculation used in the second one, the Iron Brigade (10 boxes) is 1,000 men strong (rounding to the nearest 100 men), if I remember how they do it correctly.

Beyond the "roughly 40,000" and "roughly 80,000" for Lee and McClellan respectively, its hard to judge, as M.E. Wolf stated.

Some battles have been exhaustively studied enough that we have mostly reliable numbers (Gettysburg), Antietam, particularly for the Confederacy...even with good study we just don't have much in the way of hard figures.

So those are my guesses.