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Civil War History - The Eastern Theater Discuss any and all battles, movements, and events occuring in the Eastern Theater here! This includes any actions in tha area east of the Appalachian Mountains in the vicinity of the river capitals of Richmond and Washington D.C.

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Old 08-01-2008, 12:08 AM
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After the battle of Antietam and prior to the Gettysburg campaign what other battles threaten the north in the vicinity of Maryland? From memory I don't recall any significant battles until Monocacy a year later.
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After Antietam, the Union were pretty much on the offensive. There was Fredericksburg, the 'mud march', Chancellorsville and Brandy Station. So nothing much in the way of Confederate offensives until the Gettysburg campaign.
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South Mountain, Maryland, 14 September 1862.
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If you want battles that took place after Antietam and before Gettysburg, then South Mountain doesn't count. It took place three days before Antietam.
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There was quite a bit out west, in particular Price's Missouri "Invasion" which was really nothing more than just a big raid.
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I don't count South Mountain as an invasion as it was part of the Maryland Campaign. One campaign, one invasion. Skirmishes or battles that took place during the campaign/invasion are part of the main and do not count separately.

Is South Mountain could logically be called a separate invasion, then the three gaps assaulted could be called three invasions.

Then we have to separate raids from invasions. Did the burning of Chambersburg count as an invasion? Was St. Albans an invasion or a raid?

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This is not the best definition in the world, but this is my stab at it...

Raid: An attempt to do harm to property, and/or steal/requisition goods. Generally no intent for major fights with enemy armies.

Invasion: An attempt to conquer/liberate an area held by the enemy. Major fighting with enemy armies expected.

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An attack into enemy territory, seeking out enemy armies to smash up.

This is very imperfect, and I know that the goals stated (other than the "fight or not fight") are by no means mutually exclusive, but it should do as a base to work from.
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After the battle of Antietam and prior to the Gettysburg campaign what other battles threaten the north in the vicinity of Maryland? From memory I don't recall any significant battles until Monocacy a year later.

What about Perryville, KY. Oct 5, 1862? Or maybe Munfordville. Ky the battle there ended on Sept 17, 1862?

I do not know if these battles are what 101Combat is looking for. Perryville was a bloody battle for Bragg 20% of his army in the battle.

One can argue that the Fall of 1862 was the high water mark of the South offensive efforts against the north.

Looking.....
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Interesting.... and thanks for all the replies. Yes, I forgot that South Mountain happen prior to Antietam. Again the South attacks from the north. I find the invasion in the west most interesting but I feel that these events would have had little effect on most Marylanders. I understand that the newspapers would have reported these western battles days later but were probably unknown or of little concern to most Marylanders. I see that many historians lump South Mountain and Antietam together as the Maryland Campaign.... is this even correct?
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It is correct. South Mountain is D.H. Hil's division (and some other troops) getting in the way of McClellan's march towards Antietam.

Antietam/Sharpsburg, South Mountain, Crampton's Gap, Harper's Ferry, and Shepherdstown are all part of the Maryland Campaign, though the last two are in Virginia.
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