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Candidate Vote of States (9 Feb 1861)
Jefferson Davis 6
Candidate ... Popular vote (6 Nov 1861) Electoral vote (4 Dec 1861)
Jefferson Davis .............. n/a ...................... 109
No popular vote available/applicable? I like Michael's explanation better, even though it didn't appear that anyone was running against him.
By the way, did anyone read Vareb's find on another thread about Jeff Davis and Jim Limber? Sounds like the statue is being designed to present a view of Davis that didn't really exist.
Whatever. It's up to the museum. I'd be more comfortable with a statue of Davis bookending the statue of Lincoln if Davis's had one of his real children in it instead of the emotion-laden mulatto child/pet.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
No popular vote available/applicable? I like Michael's explanation better, even though it didn't appear that anyone was running against him.
By the way, did anyone read Vareb's find on another thread about Jeff Davis and Jim Limber? Sounds like the statue is being designed to present a view of Davis that didn't really exist.
Whatever. It's up to the museum. I'd be more comfortable with a statue of Davis bookending the statue of Lincoln if Davis's had one of his real children in it instead of the emotion-laden mulatto child/pet.
Also (and still making suppositions here...) while there's only one slate of candidates, the footnotes indicate this is an actual cast ballot, as opposed to the sort of sample ballots/voting guides handed out by parties at polling places, so I guess that slate was unopposed.
Michael19103,
Thank you for providing additional information on a part of Civil War history I knew nothing about! I appreciate the effort on your part and sincerely wish to thank you for it.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Thank you for posting the website above and providing additional information on a part of Civil War history I had no idea about.
It is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Sorry I have not been on here in a while so let the native Richmonder say a couple of things.
#1 The national park service still owns the land at Tredegar, and it serves as the Richmond Visitor Center as well. This is just a part of the facility that they have basically "loaned out" from what I remember. I have not been to the center but may when I have some time off in October.
#2 The reason Arthur Ashe has a statue and not Colin Powell or Jackie Robinson as asked on page 1, is Arthur Ashe is from Richmond.
The debate as to where to put his statue was contentious to say the least. There is the Arthur Ashe Athletic Center in Richmond, that was a suggested site but not put there. There is also Ashe Park where they have a nice lake and tennis courts and little league baseball parks, but no not there either. Basically it was shoved through by Doug Wilder etc.
The good point about his statue vs Lee/Stuart/Jackson is that their statues are much larger and much more noticeable. Ashe's is at a less traveled intersection, and at night you can go right by it and not nice it's there. Needless to say nobody will miss Lee's statue when they drive by it.
The opinion around here tends to be that the Center may not even bother displaying it since SCV is putting conditions in it, but they would just keep it as part of their "collection"
Arthur Ashe, civil rights leader, was the first African American to win Wimbleton and 32 more tennis titles. Too bad he died before his time due to a blood transfusion infected with HIV and without the anti-viral drugs that have saved many from such a terrible end. I wish he was from Rhode Island so his statue could be placed at the Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport.
__________________ "Those who forget to remember the past are condemned to repeat it", George Santayana.
Worth bringing to the top, if only to show that Vareb is running short of fresh topics and hasn't enough respect for the board to resurrect an old one to add something to.
Ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
If this statue is not accepted and put on display, then this will just further show how there are forces out there who are trying to re-write and suppress history. Makes me very ill. But then again, this ain't your grandaddy's Virginia; just look at the presidential election this year.
__________________ Ancestors: Cpt. Isaac H. Vincent, CSA - 47th Alabama Infantry, Company I; Sgt. James B. Stamp, CSA - 3rd Alabama Infantry, Company I; Pvt. William Spivey, CSA - 1st Alabama Infantry, Company G, Perote Guards; Rear Admr. Raphael Semmes, CSA Navy, CSS ALABAMA
Sons of Confederate Veterans - Pvt. Augustus Braddy Camp, #385
"It is really extraordinary to find such nerve and genius in a mere boy. With a Pelham on each flank I believe I could whip the world." Lt. Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson
What it shows is that when you spend $100,000 to simply offset history, you're $100,000 down, wasted your organization's and member's dues, when something like the MOC could have been supported and its extensive collection of Civil War artifacts maintained.
The statue was made and funded solely in retaliation of the Lincoln/Tad statue installed in the same museum. This was not about history, this was about one upmanship.
The Davis statue would have made much more sense in the White House of the Confederacy or the money spent to help rebuild Davis's plantation home destroyed in the hurricane.
There are already numerous statues of Davis, one very nice one on Confederate Avenue in Richmond. This was a waste of valuable resources and money, spent in a modern, 21st century, agenda driven, in-your-face, political protest.
An utter waste of valuable funds, talent, and effort that could have been used in far better pursuits to preserve Southern Heritage.
IMO,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
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