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Old 06-23-2008, 04:49 PM
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I wanted to make this post just to let some readers here know about some experiences that I have had practicing law in the State of NJ. Many of the topics discussed here deal with secession, state citizenship, the authority of the Federal government, etc.

In the nine years that I have practiced law I have dealt with many clients who have had serious issues with the IRS. Of course, there are various reasons, but on three occasions, I have dealt with individuals, who simply stopped paying Federal taxes on the basis that they were state citizens, or the IRC was never enacted by Congress, or that the income tax is unconstitutional.

The reason why I bring this up is that these people are actually quite clever, unfortunately a little too clever for their own good it seems. Somehow, someway they are all guided by an extreme states' rights view that, in their head, entitles them to forego Federal taxation and they have been clever enough to find the 'loophole' to get out of paying Federal taxes.

All of the arguments begin with state sovereignity, state citizenship and end with 'I don't need to pay taxes and neither do you.'

Unfortunately sometimes the Federal government works slowly and sometimes years go by before anything occurs, but when the IRS starts issuing 'notices of lien' your life will take a serious turn for the worse.

At that juncture, the client can either continue to fight what is a losing battle by filing appeals on the technical aspects of their 'clever' argument, or they can simply try to settle up with the Federal government.

Whatever you do, don't get hoodwinked into these arguments that will destroy your life in an endless losing tax battle with the Federal Government that will most likely end with your imprisonment.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:53 PM
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I wanted to make this post just to let some readers here know about some experiences that I have had practicing law in the State of NJ. Many of the topics discussed here deal with secession, state citizenship, the authority of the Federal government, etc.

In the nine years that I have practiced law I have dealt with many clients who have had serious issues with the IRS. Of course, there are various reasons, but on three occasions, I have dealt with individuals, who simply stopped paying Federal taxes on the basis that they were state citizens, or the IRC was never enacted by Congress, or that the income tax is unconstitutional.

The reason why I bring this up is that these people are actually quite clever, unfortunately a little too clever for their own good it seems. Somehow, someway they are all guided by an extreme states' rights view that, in their head, entitles them to forego Federal taxation and they have been clever enough to find the 'loophole' to get out of paying Federal taxes.

All of the arguments begin with state sovereignity, state citizenship and end with 'I don't need to pay taxes and neither do you.'

Unfortunately sometimes the Federal government works slowly and sometimes years go by before anything occurs, but when the IRS starts issuing 'notices of lien' your life will take a serious turn for the worse.

At that juncture, the client can either continue to fight what is a losing battle by filing appeals on the technical aspects of their 'clever' argument, or they can simply try to settle up with the Federal government.

Whatever you do, don't get hoodwinked into these arguments that will destroy your life in an endless losing tax battle with the Federal Government that will most likely end with your imprisonment.
I had a friend of mine get kicked out of his $630,000 home for this same thing.

I tried to tell him that, as big a Jeffersonian Confederate as I am, the South lost...

And it is all under New Management!

Follow Lee's edict, and try to get along with the captors...

But he wouldn't do it.

I don't know where he is, now. The last I heard from him was that he was in Tennessee.

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In Tennessee?! Oh no! I believe in letting the punishment fit the crime, but Tennessee must be cruel and unusual.

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In Tennessee?! Oh no! I believe in letting the punishment fit the crime, but Tennessee must be cruel and unusual.

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