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As we know, history was made last night when a Black American(Barack Obama) became the nominee of a major party for President of our nation. The party Mr. Obama will represent in the fall for the race to become president will not be the party of Lincoln.
I believe the Lincoln and his fellow Republicans like Stevens, Sunmer, Chase and others of their era would be sadden to know that first Black American to run for the Presidency would be from another political party.
I believe Lincoln would have been sadden to know that future Republicans would embrace State Rights and segregation while the Democratic would embrace Civil Rights and integration.
I believe Lincoln would have been sadden to see Black America turn its back on his political party for ignoring them and their plight in the years and decades that followed the Civil War and their Freedom from Slavery.
Lincoln would be proud to know a Black American can run for President of our nation but would be sadden that the party of Lincoln would not be the party Black America embraces today.
The party of Lincoln has failed Lincoln.
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"States Rights are about States Wrongs" - Jesse Jackson
I believe the Lincoln and his fellow Republicans like Stevens...
Strange what views are assigned to certain personages of history...I guess it's that PBS/NPR/Gov't School, etc, indoctrination kicking in...
"...Why should our race be exposed to suffering and disease, when the African might endure his equal share of it? Is it wise, is it humane, to send your kindred to battle and to death, when you might put the colored man in the ranks and let him bear a part of the conflict between the rebel and his enfranchised slave? Why should these bloody graves be filled with our relatives rather than with the property of traitors slain by their own masters, who, in their turn, would fall by the hands of the oppressed? I have but little respect for the northern man who would save the rebels' property at the expense of the life of white men.
We have heard repeated the usual slang of Democrats, so freely and falsely used by them to prejudice the minds of the people, that Republicans are trying to make the black man equal in all things to the white. The distinguished gentleman from Kentucky and his allies from Ohio have talked of Sambo's commanding white men. Sir, the bill contains no such provisions. They are to be employed only as soldiers or non-commissioned officers as is provided by the original bill....I do not expect to live to see the day when, in this Christian land, merit shall counterbalance the crime ofcolor. True, we propose to give them an equal chance to meet death on the battle-field. But even then their great achievements...would give them no hope of honor. The only place where they can find equality is in the grave. There all God's children are equal...."
Thaddeus Stevens, U.S. House of Representatives, 2 February 1863
"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
Abraham Lincoln, 1858
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Strange what views are assigned to certain personages of history...I guess it's that PBS/NPR/Gov't School, etc, indoctrination kicking in...
"...Why should our race be exposed to suffering and disease, when the African might endure his equal share of it? Is it wise, is it humane, to send your kindred to battle and to death, when you might put the colored man in the ranks and let him bear a part of the conflict between the rebel and his enfranchised slave? Why should these bloody graves be filled with our relatives rather than with the property of traitors slain by their own masters, who, in their turn, would fall by the hands of the oppressed? I have but little respect for the northern man who would save the rebels' property at the expense of the life of white men.
We have heard repeated the usual slang of Democrats, so freely and falsely used by them to prejudice the minds of the people, that Republicans are trying to make the black man equal in all things to the white. The distinguished gentleman from Kentucky and his allies from Ohio have talked of Sambo's commanding white men. Sir, the bill contains no such provisions. They are to be employed only as soldiers or non-commissioned officers as is provided by the original bill....I do not expect to live to see the day when, in this Christian land, merit shall counterbalance the crime ofcolor. True, we propose to give them an equal chance to meet death on the battle-field. But even then their great achievements...would give them no hope of honor. The only place where they can find equality is in the grave. There all God's children are equal...."
Thaddeus Stevens, U.S. House of Representatives, 2 February 1863
"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
Abraham Lincoln, 1858
With these quotes of yours I can see why the Republicans of the 20th century had no problem embracing "States Rights and Segregation" and the oppression of Black America.
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"States Rights are about States Wrongs" - Jesse Jackson
This is the proper forum for this thread, but the rules remain: keep it nice.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
Anyone with any real understanding of history should measure an historical figure by the time and his contemporaries. The CW era Republicans were plenty racist by our standards. But they were generally on the positive side about ending slavery, extending citizenship to blacks during this time. Their opponents, in their campaign rhetoric anyway, were viciously and crudely racist. On one side, racists trying to do the right thing, if fitfully. On the other, a determined effort to whip up racism, to strengthen and exalt it.
Anyone with any real understanding of history should measure an historical figure by the time and his contemporaries. The CW era Republicans were plenty racist by our standards. But they were generally on the positive side about ending slavery, extending citizenship to blacks during this time. Their opponents, in their campaign rhetoric anyway, were viciously and crudely racist. On one side, racists trying to do the right thing, if fitfully. On the other, a determined effort to whip up racism, to strengthen and exalt it.
OHHHHHHHHHHHH PLEASE...
Racism on either the North or the South came from the LEFT.
The RIGHT were controlled by God, who advised, do well unto your servants, "even as ye have a master, which is in heaven"... (para.)...
Stephens Cotton Whig Racist Unionists...
or
Colonizationalist future Klansmen like Abraham Lincoln.
These are your racists. Not Davis, Lee, nor Jackson...
Strange what views are assigned to certain personages of history...I guess it's that PBS/NPR/Gov't School, etc, indoctrination kicking in...
"...Why should our race be exposed to suffering and disease, when the African might endure his equal share of it? Is it wise, is it humane, to send your kindred to battle and to death, when you might put the colored man in the ranks and let him bear a part of the conflict between the rebel and his enfranchised slave? Why should these bloody graves be filled with our relatives rather than with the property of traitors slain by their own masters, who, in their turn, would fall by the hands of the oppressed? I have but little respect for the northern man who would save the rebels' property at the expense of the life of white men.
We have heard repeated the usual slang of Democrats, so freely and falsely used by them to prejudice the minds of the people, that Republicans are trying to make the black man equal in all things to the white. The distinguished gentleman from Kentucky and his allies from Ohio have talked of Sambo's commanding white men. Sir, the bill contains no such provisions. They are to be employed only as soldiers or non-commissioned officers as is provided by the original bill....I do not expect to live to see the day when, in this Christian land, merit shall counterbalance the crime ofcolor. True, we propose to give them an equal chance to meet death on the battle-field. But even then their great achievements...would give them no hope of honor. The only place where they can find equality is in the grave. There all God's children are equal...."
Thaddeus Stevens, U.S. House of Representatives, 2 February 1863
"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
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