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Old 06-03-2008, 05:05 PM
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Default Happy Birthday, Mr. President

Today marks the 200th anniversary of the birth of President Jefferson Davis in Fairview, Kentucky, about 8 months before another future president's birth nearby.

I understand there will be a program at Beauvoir today and state offices in Alabama are closed in honor of it.

This weekend, there will be big doings at his birthpace in Kentucky. The public will have access to the historic Bethel Baptist Church which was built right on his birth site and where Davis gave his "This is my own, my native land speech at its dedication.

Again, happy birthday, Mr. President.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:30 PM
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Today marks the 200th anniversary of the birth of President Jefferson Davis in Fairview, Kentucky, about 8 months before another future president's birth nearby.

I understand there will be a program at Beauvoir today and state offices in Alabama are closed in honor of it.

This weekend, there will be big doings at his birthpace in Kentucky. The public will have access to the historic Bethel Baptist Church which was built right on his birth site and where Davis gave his "This is my own, my native land speech at its dedication.

Again, happy birthday, Mr. President.
From a letter to Jefferson Davis from Franklin Pierce, former US president... January 6, 1860.

"I have just had a pleasant interview with Mr. Shipley, whose courage and fidelity are equal to his learning and talent. He says he would rather fight the battle with you as the standard bearer... than under the auspices of any other leader".

"This feeling and judgement, is, I am confident, rapidly gaining ground in New England" (among the Conservative Democrats).

"Our people are looking for "The Coming Man" - one who is raised by all the elements in his character above the atmosphere ordinarily breathed by politicians - a man really fitted for the EMERGENCY by his ability, courage, broad statesmanship, and patriotism.
Colonel Seymour arrived this morning, and expressed his views in this relation in almost identical language used by Mr. Shepley".


- Franklin Pierce

Davis might have been selected had there not been some
nerd from Illinois who thought he was the South's best option (he wasn't) and was too proud to step aside and
let the Democrats have the chance to quell this Abolitionist menace, and keep the Old Union alive...

But, yes. Happy Birthday, Mr. Jefferson Davis. OUR president always.

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I'm beginning to put more stock in those sci-fi inventeions about parallel universes.

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Abe Lincoln and Jeff Davis. The choices weren't much better then than now.
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Have the choices ever been? The lesser of two weevils seems to have always been the choice.

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Abe Lincoln and Jeff Davis. The choices weren't much better then than now.
Edited out for the usual reasons. ole


Shutting down my newspapers again, I see! Book-burning next? Salem Witch Hunt?
Political Correction?!


Disruptive blather. and wildly off-topic editorializing. ole

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Today marks the 200th anniversary of the birth of President Jefferson Davis in Fairview, Kentucky, about 8 months before another future president's birth nearby.

I understand there will be a program at Beauvoir today and state offices in Alabama are closed in honor of it.

This weekend, there will be big doings at his birthpace in Kentucky. The public will have access to the historic Bethel Baptist Church which was built right on his birth site and where Davis gave his "This is my own, my native land speech at its dedication.

Again, happy birthday, Mr. President.

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Another event on this date that should be mentioned.

Barack Obama, a black man, secured the Democratic Party's nomination for President of the United States on Jefferson Davis's 200th birthday.

How far we have come.

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Another event on this date that should be mentioned.

Barack Obama, a black man, secured the Democratic Party's nomination for President of the United States on Jefferson Davis's 200th birthday.

How far we have come.

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Uhhh, not so fast, there, Blue, good buddy!

Hillarious has not yet ruled on that issue, and it may be the weekend before we know for sure what Her Nibs may decree...

Still, I back you on that, and hope it is true.

And Davis would be proud, I think...

"The Slave must be made fit for his freedom by being made unfit for Slavery"...

Racist Stephens would, of course, fall over in a dead faint. A victory for both sides.

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Uhhh, not so fast, there, Blue, good buddy!

Hillarious has not yet ruled on that issue, and it may be the weekend before we know for sure what Her Nibs may decree...

She's done.

Still, I back you on that, and hope it is true.

And Davis would be proud, I think...

Davis would think he was in hell.

"The Slave must be made fit for his freedom by being made unfit for Slavery"...

"Under the supervision of a superior race their labor had been so directed as not only to allow a gradual and marked amelioration of their own condition but to convert hundreds of thousands of square miles of the wilderness into cultivated lands covered with a prosperous people; towns and cities had sprung into existence and had rapidly increased in wealth and population under the social system of the South; the white population of the Southern slaveholding States..."

He was who he was, Beowulf, no amount of apple polishing in this century is going to make him into what he was not. He was not an angel, he was not a devil, he simply was a product of his time.

Racist Stephens would, of course, fall over in a dead faint. A victory for both sides.

Stephens and Davis are from the same cloth in this one area. They both would be rolling over in their graves over this one, if they could.

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