HBO's John Adams

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Originally Posted by ole

Question: (And here I'll blatantly hijack the thread.) How much of the tax was designed to get some payment for defending the colonies, and how much of it was designed to pay for the expense of kicking the French out of Canada?

I too feel some sympathy for the Englanders. They had troops in country; they had just fought a war with enormous expense and they were entitled to a little help from the colonists. Seems that there was a stumble in the PR aspects.

ole

Oh. Heavens! You don't mean that you and I are actually going to agree on something?

(Careful! Our Tory roots are showing!)

Ah-yae-yus! There was a problem at the Northern end of the colonies with wanting the right of Self-determination... and English arrogance didn't help the situation any...

Of course, had we LOST that war, well, the reputation the South enjoys to this moment could have befallen us all!


Rather like Australia!

G'Day!

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Originally Posted by ole

John Adams was a lawyer/farmer; you'd rather he were a lumberjack or seaman or soldier? I didn't expect to see John Adams as other than an ordinary, midde-class man.I missed the "Frontiersman" depiction in the first three episodes. As for being foppish in the paintings of him, that was the way it was done -- officials were expected to be attired in the fashion of the day, and that came from British roots. In his official portraits, even good ol' TJ presented a foppish appearance. It wasn't until Old Hickory that the elegance was diminished.

ole

HAHAHAHA! Old Hickory! Yessss! Well, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

I greatly fear they are trying to allude to a LOG CABIN
flavor with him in what appears to be a set of.... (gulp!) BUCKSKINS????

IS that what the indian-tanned coloring is in the partial shirt???

(I don't think Adams would have gotten in to see Lord what's-his face in England dressed like that!)...

Jefferson could pull off genteel without even trying. Washington in buckskins, maybe... okay, sure! Why not?

But Adams? More of the parlor version of the Scarlet Pimpernel (Sink me!)

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