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Old 02-15-2008, 05:04 AM
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That was a great line. I believe that was the very frustrated Robert Redford as 82nd Airborne's Maj. Julian Cook yelling at a British soldier who was under orders to not allow a convoy of transport trucks carrying folding wood/canvas boats to proceed any further down the road. The boats were needed to cross the Rhine and try to help Col. Frost and the besieged Brits in Arnhem, by a cross-river assault by the 82nd. The riverborne assault with these boats would be an effort to try to take the Germans from behind on the German held side of the Rhine, and to take the pressure off of Frost and his men at the other end of the bridge. After a lengthy delay, the boats were finally allowed to proceed to the bank, where the 82nd unloaded them, assembled them quickly... only to find that there were no oars supplied for any of them. The boats were paddled across the Rhine with only rifle butts while under heavy German fire.

It's astonishing really. I can't think of one thing in this entire massive collaborative effort by the allies that went right in "Market-Garden". Again, it's amazing how things can get so absolutely totally fouled-up (fubar) in combat ops. Even if it's been named "fail-proof". The actual battle plans for the entire operation, including maps, troop movements, timetables etc. were found by a German soldier, on a British glider that had crash landed.




Some additional info on Market-Garden

http://www.army.mod.uk/para/history/arnhem.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3618980.stm
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For me my first visit was Petersburg, probably when I was middle school...say 1986 or so.
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:28 PM
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I wrote in an earlier post that "Market-Garden" was the largest allied invasion of the war up to that point. Ahem...mistake. D-day, of course, was the largest. Market-Garden was the largest allied airborne assault of the war up to that point. (September, 1944) Thank you, and my apologies.


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offers a tired, hungry, exhausted Col. Frost a bar of English chocolate that was dropped by air, erroneously, to the Germans.

I've seen this movie at lest a dozen times and never noticed it was English chocolate!! I think I'll watch it again today

My favorite line:

The American commander of the infantry troops is racing towards the bridge (first bridge I think.) and all is going well. They pick up the pace faster and faster with no indication that the enemy knows they are there. All of the sudden 3 well placed shots take out the bridge just before the Americans reach it. The guy walks up calmly to the edge of the wrecked bridge, turns around and says... "****" The look on his face was priceless!

P.S. that **** word starts with an S ands with T..... no, not SIT
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Dred, that's a great scene. Col. Robert Stout (Elliott Gould) is always seen with a cigar stub in his mouth. He's in the movie trailer I posted. I'm not sure what regiment he was in but I think it might have been the 101st. The Germans blew that particular bridge at the last moment sending a shower of water over Gould and his men. He stands up with a soaked cigar in his mouth, hands on his hips, and says ..."****"

He brings up his engineers immediately and they have to rebuild the bridge from scratch which takes them all night and puts them squarely..."36 hours behind schedule."


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Gould also has a good interchange with Michael Caine who is playing an Irish Guards officer

"Have you got any of that Bailey c**p?"

"By Bailey c**p, do you mean that great British invention which is the envy of the free world? Yes, but I don't know how you're going to get it through this crowd."

"We've got a route marked out for you..American ingenuity. My folks were Yugoslav but what the hell."

"...yes..."
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Gould also has a good interchange with Michael Caine who is playing an Irish Guards officer

"Have you got any of that Bailey c**p?"

"By Bailey c**p, do you mean that great British invention which is the envy of the free world? Yes, but I don't know how you're going to get it through this crowd."

"We've got a route marked out for you..American ingenuity. My folks were Yugoslav but what the hell."

"...yes..."
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Absolutely. A very diplomatic exchange between two allies.



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My 1st was Fort Sumter way back in 81'. I went with my 8th grade class. The next time I went was in 97 and I had no recollection of how bad it looked then. Still, Charleston is one of my favorite places of all to visit. They have an excellant museum with all types of civil war artifacts downtown.
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This year's muster is in Charleston. Think about joining us.

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Like Gary, the first battlefield I ever visited was the Bennington Battlefield in Walloomsac, NY. It's only a few miles from the town where I grew up, and my family went there for Memorial Day picnics for years.

The battlefield park is located on a steep hill. The top of the hill marks the spot where the German mercenaries built a redoubt, hoping to hold off the Americans until reinforcements could arrive. But the Americans attacked first. Although the Germans held the high ground, they were outnumbered almost four to one and, after a hard fight, the survivors were forced to surrender. Though not a major battle, it was one of the first, if not the first clear-cut American victory of the American Revolution.

The first Civil War battlefield I visited was Gettysburg, though I was too young to appreciate it at the time.
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