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Old 01-02-2008, 07:41 PM
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This is an original from the Civil War. I have no idea what branch of service or anything else for that matter. The buttons on the side are silver and they have a cross with a crown like thing around the cross. The marking inside says, "W. P. Troy, NY"

I would appreciate any help offered!

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Old 01-02-2008, 07:42 PM
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Here are a couple more pics.



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Do the cross and crown on the buttons look anything like what is on this page?

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here is a masonic thing that has a red crucifix like the one in the photo (?)

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It is like that, but more like St. Gilbert's Cross. It is not straight up and down like your pi. It also says something on the buttone, but we can't make it out.
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Your pics aren't coming through; but the description sounds at least like a Union cap.
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"The cross and crown symbol is used by several churches; Baptists, Lutherans, Catholic for example. The symbol is not exclusively Christian - it is also used by Freemasons, and from there became a logo for both the Christian Scientists and the Jehovah's Witnesses."

Here's a site with all kinds of crosses, click on one and it goes to and explanation:

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W.P. = West Point ???


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W.P. = West Point ???
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Never thought of that! Good idea. I really know nothing about any of this. I appreciate your help.

I don't know why the pics aren't coming through, I can see them.
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Post Civil War Kepi, I'd wager 1870's or later. Any one of a score of fraternal organizations used caps like this well into the 20th Century.
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Never thought of that! Good idea. I really know nothing about any of this. I appreciate your help.

I don't know why the pics aren't coming through, I can see them.

The picture of the button is terribly so out of focus.

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I'll throw in with Shane that it's a fraternal regalia cap rather than a military one. The tag in the crown bears a logo with a chapeau, gloves, and swords similar to those used by the Knights of Columbus (and others, I'm sure!)

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