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Old 08-21-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Town Line, NY, last area in CSA to rejoin Union?

I found this on an Old West history forum, http://disc.server.com/Indices/223953.html#23485

The link to the information posted below is there.


Has anybody heard of this little town or know any information about it? I've searched high and low and can find nothing. Apparently this little town seceded and 'joined' the Confederacy and didn't officially return to the Union until 1945 or later.


'Rebels' of Town Line Near Buffalo Think of Returning as Part of U.S.

Christian Science Monitor (1908-Current file) - Boston, Mass.
Date: Jul 6, 1945 Start Page: 4, 1 pgs Document Types: article Text Word Count: 275
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TOWN LINE, N.Y., July 6 (AP) --Town Line, a hamlet 14 miles east of Buffalo, is wondering if it constitutes all that remains of the Confederate States of America since Dade County, Ga., and Vicksburg, Miss., returned to the Union July 4.

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Has anybody heard of this little town or know any informtion about it? I've searched high and low and can find nothing. I can't find the link to this article either. Not that proficient at searching, I guess. Apparently this little town seceded and 'joined' the Confederacy and didn't officially return to the Union until 1945 or later.


'Rebels' of Town Line Near Buffalo Think of Returning as Part of U.S.

Christian Science Monitor (1908-Current file) - Boston, Mass.
Date: Jul 6, 1945 Start Page: 4, 1 pgs Document Types: article Text Word Count: 275
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TOWN LINE, N.Y., July 6 (AP) --Town Line, a hamlet 14 miles east of Buffalo, is wondering if it constitutes all that remains of the Confederate States of America since Dade County, Ga., and Vicksburg, Miss., returned to the Union July 4.
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Default Town Line, NY, last area in CSA.....?

Well technically, like the south, they never left the Union. Since they were never out of the Union, their decision to return was a superfluous gesture.
Any true blue Southeron, could have informed them that according to the official states rights theory. the 'right' to secede resided 'Only' in the states. Even by confederate standards, they had never left the Union.
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There was also a scattering of towns, townships and counties across the south that "seceded" from the Confederacy.

Opn is quite correct. When Town Line seceded, nobody paid any attention. When its population forgot that it had seceded, it kinda gives you an idea of the importance placed on it. At least it had the initial conviction to send a few of its sons to fight for the South.

Might make an interesting novel.

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I declare myself & my home seceded from the Union. I'm a wun man Confederacy (until one of you'uns gwines me). Does this make me exempt from property taxes, school assessments, sewer & utility taxes and income taxes?
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It most certainly does, gary. And it will provide a source of mirth for the sheriff who sells your property for the back taxes.

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I declare myself & my home seceded from the Union. I'm a wun man Confederacy (until one of you'uns gwines me). Does this make me exempt from property taxes, school assessments, sewer & utility taxes and income taxes?
I can't speak for myself or for any other state, but there was some character declared himself and his property an independent nation. He refused to pay any type of Fed or State taxes, property taxes etc.

It lasted something like 4 or 5 yrs before the state came in and took his home. Between the State, County and IRS, he was in deep doo-doo. I don't remember what happened to him, except that he doesn't live around here any more.
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OK, I can't succeed by seceding. I now declare my home a church and me the preacher!
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The Universal Life Church will give you absolutely free for the download a certificate of ordination. It's actually legal in most states.

Then, of course, you're encouraged to take their course, for a modest fee, to learn how to be a minister - after they ordain you one, online, with very little information.

Whether or not you take the courses, you ARE an ordained minister and can set up your own church, fill out paperwork or whatever for the IRS 501 thing, and you're tax free......
maybe......... I guess.
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Well technically, like the south, they never left the Union. Since they were never out of the Union, their decision to return was a superfluous gesture.
Any true blue Southeron, could have informed them that according to the official states rights theory. the 'right' to secede resided 'Only' in the states. Even by confederate standards, they had never left the Union.
We can debate forever whether or not a state has or had the right to secede from the federal union: but I've never heard of ANY theory whereby a municipality can unilaterally secede from its state.

Which is why I don't believe that the creation of the state of West Virginia, by counties unilaterally seceding from the state of Virginia, is constitutional.

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