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Old 02-12-2007, 10:33 PM
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Sorry to you folks at the University of Miami, who got stuck with the likes of Donna Shalala.

Harvard University today announced the appointment of Drew Gilpin Faust as the new President of that institution.

"CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (AP) -- Drew Gilpin Faust recalls her mother lecturing her that "this is a man's world, sweetie, and the sooner you learn that, the better off you'll be."
It was a lesson, she wrote in a memoir, that she refused to accept.
On Sunday, Harvard University named Faust the first female president in the school's 371-year history.
"I hope that my own appointment can be one symbol of an opening of opportunities that would have been inconceivable even a generation ago," Faust said. But she also added, "I'm not the woman president of Harvard, I'm the president of Harvard."
A Civil War scholar and respected university insider, Faust, 59, emerged as a candidate considered by the school's governing body to be best suited to cool tensions within the faculty after the tumultuous five-year presidency of Lawrence Summers.
Two years ago, Summers created an uproar when he said that genetic gender differences may explain why few women rise to top science jobs. At the height of the controversy, Faust oversaw two panels that examined gender diversity on campus.
She has been dean of the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study since 2001, two years after the former women's college merged into Harvard as a research center with a mission to study gender issues.
Faust was elected by the seven-member Harvard Corporation, the school's governing body, and ratified by the 30-member Board of Overseers.
With Faust's appointment, half of the eight Ivy League schools have woman presidents. The other three are Amy Gutmann of the University of Pennsylvania, Shirley M. Tilghman of Princeton University, and Ruth J. Simmons of Brown University.
Faust pivots from managing Radcliffe, a think-tank with 87 employees and a $17 million budget, to presiding over Harvard's 11 schools and colleges, 24,000 employees and a budget of $3 billion.
"She will need to scale up and she's shown all the qualities that suggest she'll do that superbly," Gutmann said.
Lydia Barlow, a 26-year-old graduate student of Middle Eastern studies, said Faust is "going to have to be outstanding" because "people see it as a knee-jerk reaction to the comments made by President Summers."
But Robert Reischauer, a Corporation member, disagreed.
"All the reports have been 'gender, gender, gender,' and I'm thinking to myself 'isn't that funny? That has not been something we've talked about at all,"' he said.
In Faust, Harvard not only has its first woman leader, but a president who has candidly discussed her feminist ideals in a memoir, "Shapers of Southern History: Autobiographical Reflections." In it, she recalled her mother's advice about a "man's world."
Born Catherine Gilpin to a privileged family in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley, Faust recalls a conversation with the family's black handyman and driver that inspired her to send a letter -- written in block letters on school notebook paper -- to President Eisenhower pleading for desegregation.
Faust joins an exclusive roster of Harvard presidents that has included colonial clergymen, Bay State patricians and a cabinet secretary.
Interim President Derek Bok will serve until July 1 when Faust takes over.
Faust becomes the first president without a Harvard degree since Charles Chauncy, an alumnus of Cambridge University, who died in office in 1672. She attended Bryn Mawr College and the University of Pennsylvania, where she was also a professor of Southern history.
"Faculty turned to her constantly as someone whose opinion is to be trusted," said Shelton Hackney, a former president of the University of Pennsylvania and a Southern historian. "She's very clear, well-organized. She has a sense of humor, but she's very even-keeled. You come to trust in her because she's so solid."
The Harvard presidency is perhaps the most prestigious job in higher education, offering an academic pulpit and unparalleled resources -- a university endowment valued at nearly $30 billion.
But the job also comes with sharp scrutiny from a distinguished faculty and relentless pressure to meet fundraising benchmarks.
Summers often stumbled in maintaining a diplomatic balance with the school's disparate factions. Displeasure with what many professors called a brusque management style ultimately led to a no confidence vote from faculty last February.
"I believe Faust will bring dignity and honor back to Harvard," said Harry R. Lewis, a former Harvard dean who wrote a book that criticized the school for coddling students."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/02....ap/index.html


I thougth I had head that name before. Well, this lady does have the bona fides of a Civil War historian. Here is a link to her books available on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...Gilpin%20Faust

Looks to me like a win-win-win situation for those of us who wish academia would be more history oriented, and especially of that CW era history, and those of us who don't give a **** about gender, as long as the goods are delivered.

Here's a few links:



http://www.neh.gov/news/humanities/1997-07/faust.html

http://www.radcliffe.edu/about/leadership/faust.php

http://www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1326


A milestone victory for CW historians?

I'll wish her good luck!
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:46 PM
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Looks to me like a win-win-win situation for those of us who wish academia would be more history oriented, and especially of that CW era history, and those of us who don't give a **** about gender, as long as the goods are delivered.

A milestone victory for CW historians?

I'll wish her good luck!
I second that Sam
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Well, she is a feminist, so we know she has an agenda.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:08 AM
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If she is a feminist, she is a very scholarly one.
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Just wondering what the definition of a "feminist" is...

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:50 PM
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Well, she is a feminist, so we know she has an agenda.
And what agenda might that be? and is this a problem?

Is this a serious threat to the masculist agenda?

Like Blue, I wonder just what that term 'feminist' might mean these days.

In my day it was women taking off their bras, which I was enthusiastically in favor of.

Nowadays, I expect it has more to do with basic equality than anything else.

I guess we should not have expected Anna Nicole Smith to be chosen for president of Harvard, apparently she was not available.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:20 PM
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I'm with Sam; used to applaud those feminists in the 60s. From the writings referenced in the article, this lady seems to have been trying to analyze the rise of gender equality in the Louisiana - Mississippi area. Wonder if she talks funny? As we all know, the ladies are still pretty much in control.
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Not particularly a criticism, merely noting that when any person has an agenda, it is a general rule (not an absolute) that agenda trumps scholarship. Much the way race, usually, trumps gender or place of birth often trumps rational thought.
An agenda, should be a warning sign rather than a sign of good scholarship, at least for those who might not agree with that particular agenda.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:12 PM
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Just a word on Faust's new book to be released Jan. 8. Looks very interesting:

http://www.amazon.com/This-Republic-...5096264&sr=1-1

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From the Amazon review, I'd say this lady has some substance and will leave a positive mark on the university through her continued service. Death, though not one of my favorite subjects, was certainly an integral player in the War Between the States (northern agression) and the period of reconstruction.
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