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Old 12-14-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default CHRISTMAS, a SECULAR HOLIDAY?

Christmas is a secular holiday, whose fault is that?
Online Journal, FL -
... Christians. Recently in Georgia, then Governor Roy
Barnes removed the old Confederate Flag, the 'Stars
and Bars', from the State Flag. ...
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_330.shtml
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:37 AM
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"These 'historians' who opposed removing the 'stars and bars' from the Georgia state flag should have spoken up the first time it was used as a symbol of racial hatred. Having failed to do so, they cannot then claim that this symbol should remain on the state flag for historical reasons."

I can't count the times I've heard this ridiculous statement. The answer, of course, would be: For the same reason that everyone doesn't speak on behalf of the American flag everytime some skinhead is seen parading down the street with one. Any attempt to force the issue would be infringing on someone's first amendment rights.

As if it weren't apparent that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, he is calling the St. Andrew's Cross, the "Stars and Bars", which most people realize is not the Confederate battle flag, but the Confederate first national flag.

The rest of his diatribe about Christians and how they keep the Christmas holiday is hardly worth consideration. Christians that I know have no problem incorporating Christmas trees and Santa Clause into the holiday without sacrificing the true meaning of what we celebrate.

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Old 12-20-2005, 02:44 PM
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Rose, the writer had good intentions, I hope. But there again, so did Abe Lincoln. Sometimes I bite my tongue when a bumbling orator mentions the "Stars and Bars", but sometimes I try to correct him. But that's sort of like 'redneck'. Originally 'redneck' referred to a man during the great depression who was too poor to afford a hat to cover his neck while he plowed a mule and hoed his crops to support his family. He may have came from the city back to the family farm, he may hold numerous degrees and titles, but dry sheepskin has very little nutritional value. Ever notice old photographs with the farmer drinking coffee? They usually had a saucer under the cup. Poor yes. But proud, self sufficient, as mannerly as the time and place allowed. Now a redneck is supposed to portray an ignorant, lazy, uncouth individual. The redneck of old had an option: commit suicide and let someone else take his responsibility, but he didn't. Sometimes I fly the Stars and Bars, sometimes the St. Andrews Cross, sometimes the Bonnie Blue. But always one of them is on my flagpole. And my sign says "Merry Christmas".
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:28 AM
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wild--rose & Olerebel,

I have a reproduction of the 45th Alabama's battleflag, which as you know is the 'silver moon' flag of Cleburne's division. I fly it during Confederate Memorial Day. Most of the anti-confederates look and scratch their heads attempting to discern the origin of this famous flag. I'ts one of the benefits of having an ancestor in Cleburne's division, I recon. lol!

Rose, the last paragraph in your first post sums it up very nicely; regarding the Christianity part. I appreciate both you and Homer's comments!

Sincerely,
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