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Old 04-03-2006, 02:25 PM
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"You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Ft Sumter, even if it should fail; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result."--Lincoln letter to Fox

"....our anticipation is justified by the result...."

...which means they got what they wanted all along -

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Mr. Ole made a post representing the idea as something akin to Santa Claus and/or the Tooth Fairy.

I posted information that such a proposal was made to the British and French Governments in exchange for recognition.

Have a problem with that?

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I notice no one has challenged the second part of my statement-

"...this wouldn't have mattered....
....the North would still have waged war against the South..."
Well, there is "a problem with that", but it is not I who has it. As noted in post #147.
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:20 AM
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"....our anticipation is justified by the result...."

...which means they got what they wanted all along -

.................................War
Precisely.
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Old 04-04-2006, 06:28 PM
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Battalion and Wild_Rose,

And how did Lincoln and Fox get what they wanted all along?

How did they force Davis and the Confederate government to fire on the fort? By what mysterious process of mind control did they influence some of the best political minds of that century?

They could not, unless the majority of the Confederate cabinet, along with their newly chosen president, did want they wanted to do and had directed it to be done. Not unless someone can show me that the Union had a form of long-distance mind control.

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Precisely.

".... a toast, to our Southern women....."
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:14 AM
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"...a toast, to our Southern women..."
Which may slake the thirst of the man doing the toasting, and give honor to the ladies, but it doesn't resolve anything.

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