Tommy,
I thought you might have some thing to say about that A.P. Hill casting I was none to happy about the Berringger replacement myself.
I'm interested to see who will be playing Grant in LFM
Illreb
Be careful about the movie being 'fact' about any of the reasons why men fought in the Civil War. Tommy is right, you need to check in the books in history and seek out the truth. Way too much in the movies are condensed, cooked, and just plain left out because of time, money or political agenda.
Enjoy your search,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Aye, This is true Neil. For instance, there was no "Irish Regiment" in the south. Irish yes, Irish themed flags yes. 1st Virginia was one. But no brigades, Regiments etc made up of Irish that the Union had.
We should not forget the movies were based on books of fiction. Personally I never grasped the concept of "Historical Fiction." Isn't that an oxymoron?
Seems werid to me to try and figure out what historical figures actually said during a true historical moment, but, if it sells, why not? Just puts the burden of proof on us history-seeking, doubting Thomas's, eh?
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Neil,
Oddly enough, things I am 99% sure the people actually said (or close to what they said) that I like the best, when they are uttered in a film they rarely sound real.
I am not sure why that is but if it is more than a three word utterance quoted it always sounds like acting to me. Weird huh?
I have yet to see this movie, as I am waiting for the biggie, the 6 hour dude in December.
As for the stuff people actually say and ends up as movie quotes, maybe we are like Agent Fox Moulder of the 'X-Files'. "We want to believe."
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Neil,
After watching it my advice is wait for the 6 hour version. On DVD. It has to be better. I was going to do the same but I had an urge to spoil myself after this last few months. And there just wasn't much to choose from.
After you watch the extended version please let us know all about it.
I also rented "Adaptation" which is an interesting slant on making movies from books. Almost all the characters in the movie are real. The book is real. Parts of the movie are real. To a point. It is a telling look at the hollywood process.
I have seen Gods and Generals but, like Neil, I'm also waiting for the DVD that is due at Christmas time. I think I am going to watch it the first time alone because my husband Charlie kept telling me to be quiet. I spent most of the first time we watched it saying either "He didn't say that" or "That is out of context", "That didn't happen", "What absolute B.. S...!"
I was given the idea that perhaps duct tape over my mouth might be the answer so, for the second round, I kept my hand over "my biggest character flaw".
But if it gets here in time for Christmas Santa better make me a very happy lady!
As for historical fiction, fiction is still just that. I don't mind when they take pure fictional characters and warp them every which way, but everyone on this board won't take lightly to the creative processes of "Hollyrot" being applied to some of our idols.
As we say down South, I'll kick my own dog, but keep your **** hands off!
And Tommy, I love your disclaimer. How did you get that to appear on your post? I have yet to succeed as to a picture or a flag; I can't get the size right. But I would certainly like to have a little sally at the end of my posts! It shows Character, or my lack thereof.
LOL
Till we meet again, I am, YMOS,
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Extra footage makes sense. The story wasn't very good and pardon me folks, but it was boring. Extra footage that ties the movie better together would help.