Does the CBF and Southern Pride have a different meaning to black southerners than white?
Poll Answers:
1. "Blacks Ain't Southerners!"
2. Yes! The CBF applies equally to all regardless of race.
3. Wow! I really have no idea!
4. Depends upon the Time Frame.
5. It holds a different meaning for each individual.
6. The CBF was coopted by the KKK & other organizations.
7. The CBF will forever stand for making a difficult stand, right or wrong.
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Shane Christen
American Legion Post 352
SUVCW Camp Abernethy# 48
Lifetime NRA member
3rd MN VI
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Eccl 1:18
Sorry, Shane. This dog don't hunt. I'll stay on the porch.
Ole
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Does the CBF and Southern Pride have a different meaning to black southerners than white?
Poll Answers:
1. "Blacks Ain't Southerners!"
2. Yes! The CBF applies equally to all regardless of race.
3. Wow! I really have no idea!
4. Depends upon the Time Frame.
5. It holds a different meaning for each individual.
6. The CBF was coopted by the KKK & other organizations.
7. The CBF will forever stand for making a difficult stand, right or wrong.
I was going to participate but couldn't find the box to check that just said "Yes". You needed a poll to ascertain this?
Jkeith; I know it means different things to different people. The CBF means something totally different between My Grand-mother in law and you. I'm interested in different views as to why. The poll probably was an ill advised idea...
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Shane Christen
American Legion Post 352
SUVCW Camp Abernethy# 48
Lifetime NRA member
3rd MN VI
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Eccl 1:18
Shane - The problem understanding what the CBF means is that no one who was not raised under it, or even under the ghost of it can understand what it means.
Parallel would be like trying to understand what'd it be like to be black.
The true essence of it cannot be explained or understood without benefit of the experience.
The closest I could possibly get you to it would be to ask you to imagine how you'd now feel when you saw Old Glory if the US had lost the War. And even if you could do that, you'd still only just approach the essence because in fact the US did not lose the War and it's the generations of experience under those conditions that flavors the stew.
Make any sense to you?
Can we be made ashamed of the flag by people who misuse it? No, only ashamed of those who do misuse it.
The Confederate battle flag is like the sight of the Stars and Stripes flying at the ballpark or over the Capitol in Washington. Just does something to a Southern soul. A warm fuzzy feeling. No hate, just a warm fuzzy feeling. It's who we are as a people. St. Andrew would have wanted it that way.
Well lets see where do I start......
Personaly I think the CBF is a American icon. This flag is what the southern men rallied around. Just as much as we do today with the Stars and Stripes. It disheartens me when people say, use, abuse, or in otherwise disgrace the flag. The CBF is a symbol of the Confedaracy weither good or bad in your eyes or not. Those men were AMERICANS just like me. You may not have liked their cause and even thought it wrong but many good man gave his life for it. I served in the USAF and darn proud of it. I was willing to do my duty at any cost, much like the southern men did during that time. People who squak the loudest need to see the facts, understand the reasons, and show some respect. This symbol was used 150 years ago. It was to be the flag of a new nation. The Stars and Stripes was made and used in the same fashon 200+ years ago. WE ARE ALL REBEL DECENDANTS (if your family tree goes back that far). Well I said enough maybe to much.
HC
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The Confederate battle flag is like the sight of the Stars and Stripes flying at the ballpark or over the Capitol in Washington. Just does something to a Southern soul. A warm fuzzy feeling. No hate, just a warm fuzzy feeling. It's who we are as a people. St. Andrew would have wanted it that way.
Larry, I think that says it all. It's who we are as a people.
"You have no right to ask, or expect that she will at once profess unbounded love to that Union from which for four years she tried to escape at the cost of her best blood and all her treasure. Nor can you believe her to be so unutterably hypocritical, so base, as to declare that the flag of the Union has already surpassed in her heart the place which has so long been sacred to the 'Southern Cross.' "
-General Wade Hampton
Yet, 140 years later the American flag has surpassed the Southern Cross in our hearts, although we can't forget the St. Andrews cross and what it means to us as a people.
Rose
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The War Between the States established... This principle that the Federal Government is, through its courts, this final judge of its own powers.
-- Woodrow Wilson
The Confederate battle flag is like the sight of the Stars and Stripes flying at the ballpark or over the Capitol in Washington. Just does something to a Southern soul. A warm fuzzy feeling. No hate, just a warm fuzzy feeling. It's who we are as a people. St. Andrew would have wanted it that way.
Who, specifically, are you including in your reference to the "Southern soul" and "we...as a people"? Not every person born and raised in the southern states feels the same about the flag.
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