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View Poll Results: Does the CBF have a different meaning to black southerners?
"Blacks Ain't Southerners!" 1 3.33%
Yes! The CBF applies equally to all regardless of race. 2 6.67%
Wow! I really have no idea! 4 13.33%
Depends upon the Time Frame. 2 6.67%
It holds a different meaning for each individual. 10 33.33%
The CBF was coopted by the KKK & other organizations 8 26.67%
The CBF will forever stand for making a difficult stand, right or wrong. 3 10.00%
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:07 AM
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Default Old Glory's at KKK Rallies too

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I don't attend these rallies, but the ones I've seen pictures of in the paper in my lifetime have all had the CBF plastered all over the place.
I don't propose to post a bunch of KKK Rally pictures on this forum, but a quick search of Google Images produces plenty of examples of Old Glory wavin'.


Certainly the CBF is displayed at these rallys as well as the Swastika and other banners. I'm not denying it, but ......



She's there too.

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It ain't the flags we need to worry about, but rather the monkeys carrying them.
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It ain't the flags we need to worry about, but rather the monkeys carrying them.
..... and the peolple that single out one banner as opposed to another or this issue rather than that and make our decisions for US. They script up their version of the truth and color it whatever they want so long as it looks good to the sheeple and then they tell 'em what to think and what to say and what to not think or say. There's a whole bunch of, what'd you call 'em Larry, "monkeys", I prefer sheeple, out there that hate the CBF just because organizations like the NAACP has told 'em too. They don't know nothin' about the CBF. They don't know nothin' about American history or the War of Northern Agression. They don't know nothin' about their own heritage let alone mine or your's. They stumble along shoutin' this or that just 'cause their slave wage masters tell 'em too. They don't know how to think for themselves, let alone deduce and infer from logic and reason. They look at the world through black & blue tinted lenses and they will never see the truth and it will never set them free.

I like the CBF. Long my she wave, in the Land of the Free.



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Old 09-18-2007, 04:03 AM
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OIJ,

"Sheeple."

It is words and comments like this that seem to project your inability to trust common people to decide for themselves what the CBF is all about.

Also, a picture of a former, disgraced NAACP member who has dubious financial concerns, to represent black Southerners and their feelings about that flag, cuts little ice with some.

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It is words and comments like this that seem to project your inability to trust common people to decide for themselves what the CBF is all about.
Here it is again. Attack the messenger. You can't refute the truth, you can't deny the logic, you can't dispute the reason, so you attack the messenger. Typical unionblue. Typical.

It ain't me that can't trust the common people to decide for themselves unionblue. It's You!
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Here it is again. Attack the messenger. You can't refute the truth, you can't deny the logic, you can't dispute the reason, so you attack the messenger. Typical unionblue. Typical.

It ain't me that can't trust the common people to decide for themselves unionblue. It's You!
You're the one refering to people as sheeple and monkies... I, at least, am still waiting to see the truth, logic and reason behind your position.
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You're the one refering to people as sheeple and monkies... I, at least, am still waiting to see the truth, logic and reason behind your position.
I didn't call nobody a monkey. Larry did that. I did make the sheeple comment cause I think it is ap ro pos. People that blindly follow the shepard like lambs to the slaughter are sheeple. It makes sense to me and it ain't as politically incorrect as some other names I can imagine, johann-steele. What's wrong with sayin' sheeple? If the shoe fits!
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OzarkIronJohn,

I attack the method of delivery of the message. The "sheeple" comment simply screams I know better than the vast majority of people. That the rest of the common folks simply aren't smart enough to figure this issue out on their own.

To me personally, it comes across as offensive and degrading and automatically "assumes" people are just stupid in this area.

I have no problem with the idea that people may be ignorant/unknowning of the issue and it's possible concerns, outcomes, etc., but derogatory terms do not advance an issue when all they do is stir up negative emotions before when can even address the issue in question.

In other words, the sheeple comment does not help your cause, nor does it contribute to the conclusion you want most "people" to draw.

Frankly, the display of the CBF when it comes to individuals should not be infringed upon. Where most who support the CBF with rampant emotion is where things get screwed up.

It does not belong on public buildings, on the emblems of police departments, in court rooms or in legislative chambers of any state, UNLESS, a majority of the people of that state vote for it to be so. As for a state flag, again, its up to the people of the state to decide, not a vocal minority or a single organization dedicated to its own agenda.

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What's wrong with sayin' sheeple? If the shoe fits!
Nothing whatsoever is wrong with saying "sheeple" John. I know of the concept. But have you ever considered that you might be one of those led? There are sheeple on both sides of every question. Have you considered that you might be one of the sheeple on your side of the fence?

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UNLESS, a majority of the people of that state vote for it to be so.
And this is the way it was originally intended to be. If, for example, the people of SC want St. Andrew's Cross or any other symbol of the Confederacy prominently displayed, it is THEIR freaking business. It is the right of activists to make a bunch of noise. They can march and protest, and agitate, but it was the intent of the Founding Fathers that the majority rules.

That simple fact kinda slipped by a few folks in 1860.

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