__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Is H. K. Edgerton a citizen of Mississippi? Are the other black men waving the Confederate Flag Mississippi citizens? Just curious.
Out of the 12 selected counties you list, out of a total of 242,049 only 54,871 bothered to vote on the issue. Something like 4.4%? Wonder why the other 187,178 didn't bother to?
I also notice that you did not break down by race who voted for the old flag and who did not. Any chance of you posting those fighures/data?
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
Last edited by unionblue : 12-12-2006 at 02:59 AM.
Out of the 12 selected counties you list, out of a total of 242,049 only 54,871 bothered to vote on the issue.
Many of those are under 18. I give the population numbers to show the disparity between the racial makeup of the counties (the way they were "suppose to vote") and how they voted.
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Something like 4.4%?
Recheck your math.
The best I remember the turnout of voters was considered to be moderate.
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Wonder why the other 187,178 didn't bother to?
See first answer.
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I also notice that you did not break down by race who voted for the old flag and who did not. Any chance of you posting those fighures/data?
Don't have that information....other than-
Population
Black............64%.........White................ .............35%
Vote
New Flag.......48%.........Old Flag (Confederate).......52%
Last edited by Battalion : 12-12-2006 at 08:20 AM.
Thank you for your reply and information, it was appreciated.
Still, one thing though, is H. K. Edgerton a citizen of Mississippi?
Sincerely,
Unionblue
__________________ "The American people and the Government at Washington may refuse to recognize it for a time but the inexorable logic of events will force it upon them in the end; that the war now being waged in this land is a war for and against slavery." Frederick Douglass
"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." George Santayana
This question will always produce diverse answers. First of all, the flag does mean different things to different people. I think the question is incomplete. There should be a part 2 to the question as well. What does the American Flag mean to you? Speaking from a modern veteran's point of view, I am very proud of the American flag. As a youngster, I crewed on a Search and Rescue cutter. In my mind there was nothing more stirring than watching the steaming colors snap in the breeze as we patroled the North Atlantic.
By the same token, I also recognize that there were periods in American history where the flag could be interpreted quite differently. For example how could you be proud of a country that while freeing the slaves killed off the Red man? The flag stands for the country, no?
Could you be proud of the country i.e flag during Polk's administration when he literally concocted a war against Mexico to gain territory or how about Jackson who initiated the Trail of Tears. All of these items were initated under the American Flag. I've heard some people today even remark that we need a different flag because of what the present flag represesented in the 19th century.
The same holds true for the Confederate flag, some admire it because of the American independent spirit it represented. Some decry it, citing Slavery.
But to me the best part is the obvious lack of understanding and knowledge of those who wish to put the Confederate Battle Flag to bed. If they mean what they say, why don't they go after Virginia and South Carolina and Texas who have had the same state flags since before the Civil War? I mean since those flags flew in Confederate states 150 years ago, What right do they have to fly now????
BD
__________________ I've seen these sweat soaked heroes fight, in superheated air,to keep their ship alive and right, though no one knows they're there. And thus they'll fight for ages on, till warships sail no more,amid the boilers mighty heat and turbines hellish roar. So when you see a ship pull out, to meet a warlike foe, remember faintly if you can "the men who sail below"
~ excerpted from "The Men Who sail below", Author unknown.
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