Does the CBF and Southern Pride have a different meaning to black southerners than white?
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OK, now I'm aggravated... I set this poll up this morn then ran off to work... it's missing 3 more choices. I can't edit the cursed thing... My apologies everyone; I may ask Ami to delete the thing so I can start over.
5. It holds a different meaning for each individual.
6. The CBF was coopted by the KKK & other organizations.
7. The CBF will forever stand for making a difficult stand, right or wrong.
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
The flag means different things to different people. Some Black Southerners (and some whites too) are offended because it may be seen as a symbol of racism. I concede that they are partially correct since the KKK and Neo-nazis used it - much to the detriment of the Civil War Community. The Civil War Community views it from a more historical perspective. Nothing wrong with seeing it at a museum or a reenactment. It is altogether fitting and proper that it is and omitting it would put a heavy political correct (and heavily biased) interpretation of hystery.
But wiser minds than mine have already spoken on this subject. Dr. John Coski answered that question with his book, The Embattled Emblem. It was too intellectual for me. I'd rather read something about peepul shooting other peepul. I have the Honour, Sirs, to be
#8: It is a symbol of a "nation" which is a black mark in American history (if by no means the only one) and an enemy of the United States.
Quotes as the Confederacy was not officially recognized, and therefore was not legally a legitimate nation yet.
That said, there are places it is fitting...a reenactment most certainly should have it flying, just as a reenactment of WWI should have German (Imperial) flags, or for that matter, the WWII flag in a WWII reenactment.
It however serves no other purpose. Using it outside this context is using it as a symbol of something. The Confederate flag has rarely been a symbol of something something positively inclined towards either the United States or nonwhites.
Yours with respect to those Southerners (past and present) whose honor is above question or as close to it as any human can be,
Elennsar
__________________ Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee
The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just. - Abraham Lincoln
Their was a "corrected" version, no idea if it's even still here.
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
At the risk of being a killjoy, there is no way that any of us can understand black aversion to the CBF, any more than we can understand the visceral reaction that Jews have to the hakenkreuz. Right or wrong, blacks feel that the symbol of the CBF is hurtful. Living in the rural south, I can tell you that rednecks fly the Stars and Bars here as a symbol to celebrate their white heritage.
I would love to hear an african-american viewpoint here. Because lets face it; we on this forum are about as lily-white as it is possible to be.
Just my opinion.
__________________ David
"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person" diddyriddick
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