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View Poll Results: Does the CBF mean the same thing to Black Southerners.
No; "blacks ain't Southern." 1 10.00%
Yes; the CBF and its legacy applies equally regardless of race. 7 70.00%
Wow I really have no idea. 1 10.00%
Depends upon the time frame. 1 10.00%
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:09 PM
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Battalion, how many slave ships put into port in a northern port in that same period?

How many ships were built in the South in the same time period?

Please enlighten us.
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Battalion, how many slave ships put into port in a northern port in that same period?
That's where the great majority of them came from.

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How many ships were built in the South in the same time period?
Not many...what does this have to do with anything?

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Here's a slave trade triangle map.
The green lines depict the trade involving the New England & New York slavers-


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Old 09-18-2008, 10:26 PM
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This poll doesn't seem to make a great deal of sense. Is it just me?
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That's where the great majority of them came from. Yes, because that is where the majority were built. Now where did they deposit the cargo? Obviously where it had a market for purchase. Even at the time of the Revolution the South was peculiar about your institution.


Not many...what does this have to do with anything? See above

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Yopu enjoy pilloring the "north" by blaming that region for slavery as though it was somehow forced upon them. Were northern shipping interests complicit in the slave trade? Obvioulsy. Who is to blame the man who carries the cargo to port or the man who buys it. How about both. I don't know how many timnes i can say it, slavery was a national sin, not a regional one. It has stained the honor of this nation since its inception. But as to who wanted to keep slavery going... that answer is quite obvious to anyone reading US history from the Founding Fathers on. And you're right about money being the cause, the money invested and to be made through slavery kept it going and prospering.
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Larry, you're right. This was an original poll that was screwed up in the posting, IIRC half the options never made it into the poll.
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http://civilwartalk.com/forums/ballo...corrected.html was the corrected thread.
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My Confederate ancestors were guilty as can be.

I and my friends are proud of them just the same, though they may not have been right (that's debatable, at least in these parts). The men of the CSA believed in their reasons, whatever they were, enough to continue a bloody war for four years. They get points for trying. (Down here in Dixie, we keep our own scoreboard, so we can give points when we want.)
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My Confederate ancestors were guilty as can be.

I and my friends are proud of them just the same, though they may not have been right (that's debatable, at least in these parts). The men of the CSA believed in their reasons, whatever they were, enough to continue a bloody war for four years. They get points for trying. (Down here in Dixie, we keep our own scoreboard, so we can give points when we want.)
I wouldn't disagree w/ much of that Larry. South has always been pretty good at making up its own rules when it seems like a good idea.
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My Confederate ancestors were guilty as can be.

I and my friends are proud of them just the same, though they may not have been right (that's debatable, at least in these parts). The men of the CSA believed in their reasons, whatever they were, enough to continue a bloody war for four years. They get points for trying. (Down here in Dixie, we keep our own scoreboard, so we can give points when we want.)
Well said, Larry.
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