And it's a pretty dang good opinion. Although I suspect we have a few African-Americans among us, I'm grateful that we don't care enough to ask.
On another thread we learned of the flap in Memphis about removing the Forrest statue and his bones!!!! from a cemetery there. This is playing the "I'm offended" card into ridiculous territory. Working racism into either side of an argument offends the hell out of me. We ought to be above that.
And here I'm treading on dangerous ground. Disregard everything I just said.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
There are/were four black men active on this site and my wife listens to my gripes and growls on a daily basis... trust me gents you do not want her take on the CBF and the Lost Cause.
"As a flag over a statue on the statehouse lawn dedicated to the men that's cool; over the dome, shameful. The only reason it was put there in the first place was to put a stick in the eye of the civil rights movement." Paraphrased of my wife
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
There are/were four black men active on this site and my wife listens to my gripes and growls on a daily basis... trust me gents you do not want her take on the CBF and the Lost Cause.
"As a flag over a statue on the statehouse lawn dedicated to the men that's cool; over the dome, shameful. The only reason it was put there in the first place was to put a stick in the eye of the civil rights movement." Paraphrased of my wife
Some men have women to run their lives. Most of those need it.
Maybe some of you here can get your wives to help you figure out how many slaves were carried to Americas under the Flag of the Confederacy versus under the Union flag.
The wife's ancestor came over on the Wanderer, do you know the story?
Her family lived under the terrorism of the Klan for generations... what flag do you suppose they consider the Klan flag? Do tell, I'd be amused to watch you tell a 90+ year old woman, who has lived through it, she doesn't know what she's talking about. To quote a young Southern Lady from another bord... I can almost hear it: "Bless his soul, the boy don't have a clue does he?"
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
It sounds like Mrs. Steele is pretty smart. Keep her!
Women are evil, money is good and love is the end of all happiness. Though that is coming from a happily wedded man. She even has me housebroke.
__________________ Few take the trouble to understand or to view the American scene with perspective. And we Americans love to find ourselves guilty of something. However, it is never I who am guilty, but those other Americans, the past or present government or the other political party. Americans almost never find other countries guilty. It is always ourselves or our fancied influence in other countries. Louis L'amour
Some men have women to run their lives. Most of those need it.
A double-dog amen, Vareb. We might pretend that we don't need it, but a good woman in one's life is a godsend. "The hand that rocks the cradle .... etc."
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
The wife's ancestor came over on the Wanderer, do you know the story?
Sure do. Under what flag?
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Her family lived under the terrorism of the Klan for generations...
Sorry to hear that. But I will lay you odds at early on they used the Union flag.
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what flag do you suppose they consider the Klan flag?
Read the above.
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Do tell, I'd be amused to watch you tell a 90+ year old woman, who has lived through it, she doesn't know what she's talking about.
Oh, I have seen it to. But suppose you take a look at the flag that was used when she was growing up. You don't have to read that crap but scroll down and take a look.
To quote a young Southern Lady from another bord... I can almost hear it: "Bless his soul, the boy don't have a clue does he?"
Is that directed at me?
I think the KKK is a nasty blight on America! They use the Confederate Flag as a symbol of hate but that didn't happen until 20, 30 years ago. Before that, it was the good old US of A flag they used.
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The wife's ancestor came over on the Wanderer, do you know the story?
Sure do. Under what flag?
You're better than this, Vareb. You know doggone well what flag the Wanderer flew when her southern owners flaunted the laws to convert her into a slave ship and to deliver some more than 400 surviving captives to Jekyl Island.
How the "Wanderer" managed to elude the port authorities and the squadrons off the African coast is a fascinating read. What is particularly interesting is the (later) secesh in the Federal government trying to track her down and prosecute the owners.
And all you got out of the book is "What Flag." Pitiful.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
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