Me thinks the USN by its blockade of the Confederacy did more. The blue water Confederate naval presence was mainly through ships built overseas and manned by foreign sailors or merchantmen with letters of marque to act as privateers. Either way, their purpose was to disrupt Yankee shipping. The USN, on the other hand, served to pursue and destroy Confederate raiders or merchantmen with cargo (including human) that as destined for the Confederacy.
Me thinks the USN by its blockade of the Confederacy did more. The blue water Confederate naval presence was mainly through ships built overseas and manned by foreign sailors or merchantmen with letters of marque to act as privateers. Either way, their purpose was to disrupt Yankee shipping.
Yes, you almost got it.....
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Originally Posted by gary
The USN, on the other hand, served to pursue and destroy Confederate raiders or merchantmen with cargo (including human) that as destined for the Confederacy.
Any evidenec that the CS Navy ever stopped a slaver headed to New York? Doubt it greatly.
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You mean to say that some in the South was STILL trying to import slaves via New England shippers even during the war? With both the United States and the South declaring it illegal to import slaves?
Now that's determination!
Sincerely,
Unionblue
PS Battalion who was the first slaver to be hung for violating the law on importing slaves into the country? Hint, it wasn't on a Union/Northern/New England ship.
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The slave trade was officially ended in 1808. It then went underground and such as were imported were smuggled in, usually by way of Spanish posessions in the Caribbean. Profits were good and the trade, though reduced to a trickle, went on. When the US and British Navy got serious and started to hang a few traders, a serious crimp appeared -- profits weren't that good.
Battalion is using his usual transparent guile to claim that Slaves were brought to these shores on Northern-owned ships. Of course, the purchaser had no part in the evil transaction, nor does it enter into the subject that there were virtually no Southern-owned ships.
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http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?hlaw:12:./temp/~ammem_csT6:: "The execution of the laws for the suppression of the African slave trade has been confided to the Department of the Interior. It is a subject of gratulation that the efforts which have been made for the suppression of this inhuman traffic have been recently attended with unusual success. Five vessels being fitted out for the slave trade have been seized and condemned. Two mates of vessels engaged in the trade, and one person in equipping a vessel as a slaver, have been convicted and subjected to the penalty of fine and imprisonment, and one captain, taken with a cargo of Africans on board his vessel, has been convicted of the highest grade of offence under our laws, the punishment of which is death."
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?hlaw:12:./temp/~ammem_csT6:: ". Five vessels being fitted out for the slave trade have been seized and condemned. Two mates of vessels engaged in the trade, and one person in equipping a vessel as a slaver, have been convicted and subjected to the penalty of fine and imprisonment, and one captain, taken with a cargo of Africans on board his vessel, has been convicted of the highest grade of offence under our laws, the punishment of which is death."
ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Washington, December 3, 1861.
The Quote is from Lincoln's Annual Message to Congress.
Any idea of Where the 5 vessels being outfitted were captured? (And where were they all registered? Rented, Leased? I do have the names of all 5 but not where registered.)
How about the cargo of Africans? Reason I ask, England and the US were both engaged in trying to stop slavers along the coast of Africa, and, although weren't all that sucessful in stopping many vessels, occasionally they lucked out.
Chuck
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Who Did More To Hinder The New England/New York Slave Trade During 1861-1865 
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