I Had To Go With Clinton, As For Lincoln He May Have Been A Good President But He Just Was In Office At The Wrong Time. He Came Into Office With Stirred Up Pot Getting Ready To Boil Over Because Of The Issues Of That Time. The North Wanted Him In ,the South Didnt. But The North Had More Voting Power Than The South By Population. So As Far As A Good Man I Think He Was. Better Than What We Have In There Today.
I had to vote for FDR. He came in to office during the depression, started the TVA, the CCC and the New Deal. These programs gave hope and most of all, JOBS to millions of people. Unfortunatly, he was also a war time president and the only three term president.
I say lets keep this out......too many feathers can get ruffled...this is a Civil War Board....lets keep it this way.
Though this is a question with political implications, it is actually an historical one. You are being asked to consider which of our presidents had the hardest time in office with the citizenry. If you have some type of problem with the question, bring it to the attention of the moderators and otherwise opine in the nature of the question and omit your opinions which do not bear upon the subject at hand. regards, ed
__________________ 'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag'
I finally cast my vote just now for Abe Lincoln. Although in my opinion no president either before or after him, exhibited or exhibits the level of intelligence, compassion, or magnanimity that he showed, I think if we're talking about the numbers, I believe he was the most reviled. People in the South and many in the North despised him. If you haven't had the chance yet, go through the Lincoln museum in Springfield and look at all the negative cartoons and caricatures covering the walls in the White House tour.
Just my opinion.
Terry
__________________ "In this great struggle, this form of Government and every form of human right is endangered if our enemies succeed. There is more involved in this contest than is realized by every one." Abraham Lincoln - August 18, 1864 Speech to the 164th Ohio Regiment
I concede this is a very difficult question to as*sess (sorry- had to do that to get through the artificial unintelligence). As samgrant points out, folks without an historical perspective would see only the now and the popular discontent associated with recent presidents, and it is hard not to be immune from current times even for us with an understanding of history. In a poll of the general public, without question, W & Bubba would top the list with a smattering of Jimmah, Nixon, & Reagan. Because of our Southern friends of long memory, Lincoln might vie for the top 5, but barely I would wager.
It is easy to see the goings on, rantings, railings, and imbecilic gibberish we see today and wonder how it could have been worse in earlier times. Every president had his vocal, frenzied even, even maniacal opposition save I would say Washington. John Adams was deeply and vociferously reviled as was Jefferson after him. Things couldn't have been much better for Madison and the New England Federalists witlessly ranting about seceding, for Quincy Adams, for Jackson beset with the nullifiers on top of their other problems. And then we come to Lincoln, who not only had an accomplished secession and with it war to deal with, but the crazed, lunatic, unto treasonous poison of the Copperheads and then also the war-weary.
Did Lincoln have it worse than George W does? Kinda hard to imagine, even with the multitude of woes and bitterness Lincoln faced, that what W is going through is much better- given the instantly broadcast litany of whining and ranting and lunacy unto treasonous poison by true enemies and just dummies to largely educated, but dim and ignorant masses of easily distracted instant gratifiers.
I suppose it comes down to that the Good Lord in His infiinite wisdom has deemed it largely comical or else a way to keep the good and wise on their toes to inflict a liberal (pun intended) dosage of maniacal ranting and wailing, thrashing and gibbering, lunatics upon the land. What else could it be?
__________________ 'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag'
sorry- trouble with comp, didn't think post had taken. double post.
__________________ 'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag'
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