__________________ "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names".--J.F.K.
The War Between the States established... This principle that the Federal Government is, through its courts, this final judge of its own powers.
-- Woodrow Wilson
Is it too much to ask to read the first couple of posts, especially the first outlining the poll? This is a multiple choice poll, choose three. And you are not just choosing men, but what they did and stood for. A handy summary accompanies each choice. Regards, ed
As this thresd has been rejuvinated, I'll stand by my original post #47
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As this thresd has been rejuvinated, I'll stand by my original post #47
As you will, Sam. Then i will stand by those fellows at the bottom of your posts. ed
__________________ 'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag'
The plain truth is the Southern states were tied too tightly, economically, to slavery. On the other hand, the South was never going to retain control of the Congress in the future. And once that happened a northern controlled Congress was not going to admit another slave state to the Union. Lincoln said prior to his election that he would tighten control of slavery in the territories. That would severely reduce the slave economy and while not banning slavery in the south, would reduce its worth anywhere outside the slave states.
Black Republicanism grew from the power that the federal government had in the U.S. Constitution, but hadn't fully exercised. Southerners did not want a powerful government exercising power over the states, especially power that affected slavery. Lincoln was going to use that power and that meant secession and war.
Lincoln knew railroads as a railroad lawyer. He knew the weaknesses of the Southern industrial base, and he knew the rest of the U.S. had a very distinct advantage. It is a credit to the Confederacy that they fought so long. But by 1863, the cracks in the Confederate mirror were showing. The Confederate leadership would fight for some two more years. But the Confederate mirror was cracked and would shatter into a thousand pieces.
A Slave economy would destroy the ability to win; the very thing the Southern states were fighting to preserve - the freedom to exercise the right to own slaves.
I see Lincoln catching the blame because he stood up and made the hard choice.
And the right one.
He was right because he has won this war.
Of course I have voted on A.Lincoln, he started the war when he had called 75,000 volunteers against free and independent Southern states. How can one be more responsible?
__________________ Nico, Maréchal d'Empire
Last edited by Nico_Davout; 02-14-2008 at 01:26 PM.
Lincoln called up 75,000 volunteers after Fort Sumter was reduced -- not to invade the freedom loving slave states, but to defend Washington City from an attack most were certain was coming.
ole
__________________ I never knew a man who wished to be himself a slave. Consider if you know any good thing that no man desires for himself. A. Lincoln
Lincoln called up 75,000 volunteers after Fort Sumter was reduced -- not to invade the freedom loving slave states, but to defend Washington City from an attack most were certain was coming.
ole
From declaration:
"(...)Now, therefore, I, ABRAHAM LINCOLN, President of the United States, in virtue of the power in me vested by the Constitution and the laws, have thought fit to call forth, and hereby do call forth, the Militia of the several States of the Union, to the aggregate number of 75,000, in order to suppress said combinations, and to cause the laws to be duly executed.(...)
I deem it proper to say that the first service assigned to the force hereby called forth will probably be to repossess the forts, places, and property...."
I can`t find anything about defending Washington city? But I find a lot which is saying about invading, conquering, submitting Southern states.
It was Davis who order the first to shot orders to our boys in Charleston, SC. The secession had started but it was Davis who lite the fuse to war
True, but remember January 9, 1861 when the Star of the West was fired? No one said nothing. The same thing happens April 12, 1861. They say that South started the war. I disagree. South may gave 'casus belli', but nohting else. It was Lincoln, who by calling volunteers, declared (de facto) war.
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